Podcast Episode

Retinoids, Peptides and Injectables: A Dermatologist on What Works and What’s Overhyped

Who’s talking

2 speakers
Noëlle Sherber59 min · 80%
Chris Wharton15 min · 20%

Transcript

308 turns · 1 hr 15 min
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Noëlle Sherber0:00

Skin is a barrier organ. All it takes is to see one patient who has a severe burn or something that disrupts their skin barrier to see immediately how important our skin is as a barrier. There was an early observational study in Europe that showed people just living closer to a big highway versus farther away had worse skin quality in terms of brown spots and lines and wrinkles. Just think to yourself, whenever you're not washing your face at night, it's like getting in bed with your shoes on. The last time we had a sunscreen approved in the US, do you know when it was? 1999. It's pretty shocking in the dermatology community. Our skin cancer rate in the US is one in five, which I think is a lot because if you think of how many patients I see in a day, that means several of them are going to get skin cancer. But in Australia, it is two in three. So they have a real public health challenge.

CW
Chris Wharton0:45

Why are we taking skincare advice from them then?

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Noëlle Sherber0:47

because they've gotten so serious about sun protection. I

CW
Chris Wharton0:49

think we've got a bit of a branding problem with SPF. I think if someone were to discover this as a product today and call it the best anti-aging skincare product of all time, then everyone would be using it every day.

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Noëlle Sherber1:05

I think sunscreen needs the same PR that like kale has had. Some people even get in a tanning bed to prepare for vacation. And we see more skin cancer in people who have those behaviors than people who actually get low levels of consistent sun exposure. As one of my medical school professors loved to say, you better take care of your body like you might need it for 100 years. They just added one ingredient and followed subjects for 52 weeks. They had sequential imaging at defined time points. They were evaluated by an investigator. They reported their own self-assessment. And at the end of the year, every element of skin quality, texture, clarity, pigment, improved by about 50%, which is a big improvement. We're used to seeing, you know, little percent improvements, you know, that most products of this eye cream will give you an 8% improvement. This 50%, and that ingredient was...

CW
Chris Wharton2:06

Noelle, welcome. I'm so glad to be here. And congratulations. Thank

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Noëlle Sherber2:11

you. I'm

CW
Chris Wharton2:11

buzzing for you. Thank

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Noëlle Sherber2:12

you. Our own little longevity and regeneration

CW
Chris Wharton2:14

project. Hey, do you know the gender?

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Noëlle Sherber2:16

Yes. Give you the inside scoop. We're having a boy. Have you already picked a name? We have not.

CW
Chris Wharton2:23

Okay. Anyway, we're here to talk about skin.

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Noëlle Sherber2:25

We are.

CW
Chris Wharton2:26

And I think to start with, it'd be really useful to give a little bit of background context because you sit at this interesting intersection between, you know, clinical practitioner, researcher, scientist. So why don't we start there?

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Noëlle Sherber2:40

So skin, speaking of children, in a children's book, it would say, you know, we keep the outside out and the inside in. And that is true. Skin is a barrier organ. And all it takes is to see one patient who has a severe burn or something that disrupts their skin barrier to see immediately how important our skin is as a barrier. Because someone with a severe burn can't control their water balance. They lose so much water through the skin. They get infections very readily. So when we're talking about healthy skin, one

Episode notes

Which anti-aging skincare products actually work according to science, and which are just hype? Board-certified dermatologist and Clinical Associate Professor of Dermatology at George Washington University, Dr. Noëlle Sherber cuts through the noise with an evidence-based breakdown of sunscreen, retinoids, peptides, injectables, and more.

Anti-aging skincare has become so crowded with products, procedures, and conflicting advice that building an effective routine feels nearly impossible. Dr. Noëlle S. Sherber, a dermatologist specializing in collagen and connective tissue disorders, brings a clinical lens to skin longevity and explains why just six essentials — cleansing, antioxidants, hydration, moisturizer, sunscreen, and nighttime repair — form the only foundation you need.

Dr. Sherber examines what tretinoin, over-the-counter retinoids, peptides, topical estrogen, red light therapy, and injectables can and cannot do, while unpacking skin barrier health, "digital dermatosis" (the algorithm-driven cycle that pushes you to buy more products), and "perception drift" (why you stop seeing your own results over time).

**This conversation with Chris Wharton on The LIVING Room Podcast is for anyone who wants healthier, younger-looking skin without a complicated 10-step routine or unsupported claims. You'll walk away knowing which fundamentals deserve your

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