Podcast Episode

The Debrief - Episode 8 David Flanagan

One True Measure
Sep 10, 202620 minEN

Who’s talking

2 speakers
Blake O'Connell13 min · 69%
Jack6 min · 31%

Transcript

155 turns · 20 min
BO
Blake O'Connell0:05

Echo Chamber.

J
Jack0:06

Yeah.

BO
Blake O'Connell0:06

This is our own personal Echo Chamber. Yeah. Hey, guys. How are you? We're here to debrief podcast eight. David Flanagan. David Flanagan. What a legend. Now, this guy has lived a life, has he not? Oh, yeah. Oh, my gosh.

J
Jack0:21

The dream for a lot of people, but also a lot of hard work that a lot of people wouldn't want to

BO
Blake O'Connell0:26

do. And so many different things, right? Like so many different experiences. Oh, yeah. The CIA stuff is just wild.

J
Jack0:34

Yeah. Like you wouldn't think he'd go from – the mining industry

BO
Blake O'Connell0:40

to space.

J
Jack0:41

Yeah. And then you skip 20 minutes in the podcast and he's at a bar with a random bloke. I know. Yeah. I mean, I didn't expect that to

BO
Blake O'Connell0:47

go. I mean, I did, I did it when I did my research, I was like, it was definitely one of the things I wanted to talk about. And we, but I was surprised even then, like the experiences, you know, even just like the things around like mining and space, you think that there's no correlation, there's no connection. Yeah. But a lot of like, um like space technology is based on mining

J
Jack1:07

yeah

BO
Blake O'Connell1:08

and so like as australia as a mining company has got lots of expertise that actually translates a lot to space stuff

J
Jack1:13

yeah

BO
Blake O'Connell1:14

um which is pretty cool but um yeah so dave um david comes from small town in in wa Humble upbringings. He's son of an immigrant or immigrant family. Was it Polish? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, Polish. Yeah. And, I mean, they came out after – his grandfather came out after World War II. And cool story about – and I won't ruin it because I think that's – you need to listen to the podcast and just like that. That was probably one of the really – There were so many good points about it is that I think moving for him is like that whole conversation you talk about his family. Oh,

J
Jack1:52

yeah.

BO
Blake O'Connell1:53

And, yeah, Australia has so many of those stories.

J
Jack1:58

Oh, yeah, because from, what, the 50s to the early 2000s, you have that whole generation of the Europeans coming over from all the different countries trying to find their own way in Australia. Yeah.

BO
Blake O'Connell2:11

We are a nation of immigrants, mate.

J
Jack2:12

Yeah. Aren't we? Of

BO
Blake O'Connell2:13

course, yeah. You know, outside of obviously the Aboriginal people, like we all, you know, there's this concept of like... Family came here at some point. You're a boat person, right? Yeah. Like every single one of us, like we might have, our family might have flown here. Yeah. But they also might have come, you know, via boat as well at some point. Yeah. It might not have been in the 60s or 70s. It could have been, you know, 1850s or 60s, right? I actually don't know

J
Jack2:35

too much about my dad's side when they came.

BO
Blake O'Connell2:38

Yeah.

J
Jack2:39

And I don't think I'd want to know. Really?

BO
Blake O'Connell2:40

Yeah. But, I mean, like, yeah, I mean, his story, speaking about story and his family story, some of the things that he's done, obviously, from what is, you know, one of the questions, I think, Jack, he might have chatted to you about it. It's like, hey, like how does someone go from being, you know, small town Australia or wherever you're from to being someone that's kind of at the table, the big table, you know, of a billion dollar business where, you know, you're talking to people about at a national level like things that, You know, it could be... They're huge. That could affect a

Episode notes

Blake and the team sit down to discuss the conversation with David Flanagan, their takeaways, key learns, as well as heading down a few philosophical rabbit holes. In the chat the team talk through what it takes to build a billion-dollar company from a junior explorer, why loyalty and relationships can matter more than pure strategy in volatile industries, and the courage it took to return and rebuild Atlas Iron through the 2014/15 price collapse. They also unpack David's transition from mining entrepreneur to educator and philanthropist, and why he believes leadership is ultimately measured by the people you bring with you.

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