The Debrief - Episode 6 Ben Franks

Like a Wallabies fan though, right?

No, he liked All Blacks. Oh my gosh, what a great place to start, yes.

The Australians talking about the All Blacks. Well, that's where we're going today. Hey guys, welcome back. Episode six. Yes, sir. We were just talking about the rugby. And this gentleman, so two-time World Cup winner, Ben Franks, amazing opportunity to have that guy in. I absolutely loved that chat. We were so lucky to get him, obviously. And he called in from Tokyo because he's a coach there. It's the Mitsubishi Dinobores, they're called. Yeah. So in Japan, it's really, it's quite interesting. I didn't realize this. Ben told me this when we had a chat a few weeks prior, is that with lots of professional sport, the businesses or like the big businesses own the team.

Right.

Yeah. I

think it's a big Asian thing, right? Is it? Yeah, I think so. I think it's very much the same in Korea as well.

Is it? Because you, Jack, went to Korea. Went to Japan. And Japan last year. Last year?

Yeah. It's just all of those big companies. Yeah, it's a lot. Hyundai would probably have one or something. And all the banks and stuff. Yeah. They own a lot of the big sporting companies. Just pour money into it.

Yeah, so like it's weird and cool at the same time. So like this Mitsubishi team, so Mitsubishi, the car, I think I'd assume the car company because there's multiple parts to Mitsubishi.

There's

heavy industries. They build like ships for like navies and all sorts of stuff. They're building Australia's new ship. But yeah, so that person might be an employee of the business and like work there during the week and so their wage is paid by the business and they kind of get paid to play rugby.

It's pretty cool. At the same time. What a life. Yeah. Yeah.

It's really interesting. So like the people that support it, you're supporting the business as a, like if you're a supporter of Mitsubishi Dinobores.

Yeah.

It's interesting because like for us, right, Western, they're all, they're like independent. They are a sporting team unto themselves. There's no affiliation with anything. The sporting team is the sporting, is the club, right? Yeah. Whereas this is a business and a club. which I feel like that's interesting. I want to talk about that more. You

only really hear of like sponsors here, not like people actually owning the teams. Yeah, that's

right.

So it's a lot different.

It's like one giant sponsor with no other sponsors. Whereas here, you know, you look at a footy jersey or something like that, it's got at least five or six things all over it, isn't it?

Yeah, it's its own organisation that has partnerships.

So it's an interesting cultural piece to probably what's going on there. But, you know, we could probably talk about that. But we want to talk about Ben Franks. So he was, so I would argue, And it's probably in the stats and just remembering it is that between, so there was a seven year period that Ben was part of that team and they played something like 85 tests and they won at like a 95% win rate during that seven year period. You know, you zoom out from that for the All Blacks, like the All Blacks have won at something like 73 or 74% over 124 or 120 year period. So one