Mark Direen - The Debrief | OTM #023

We're going to break everything in there. That's right. That's right. We have seasoned

professionals here, guys. How are we, guys? Welcome to Debrief number 11. Yes.

For

podcast number 11. We've done a few of these now, haven't we?

I

know,

different guests every

time. I'm really enjoying

them.

They're good.

They are

good. I actually found myself listening or watching a couple. Oh, really?

Yeah.

And not feeling overly cringy about it.

I know. I watched the one where I was in. I actually kind of liked watching myself. I hate my voice. I

know. Hey, it sounds weird to say that, right? But I think a lot of people look at it and go, it's hard to watch yourself or listen to yourself. Definitely for me. But I don't know. I've really enjoyed the chats. And I think the intention behind what we've been doing, the debrief, is a different conversation to talk about the chat amongst us, right? Yeah. Because, you know, for me, that's, I don't know, four weeks ago, four or five weeks ago. So you kind of forget. And it's always interesting to hear someone else's perspective, right? At least for me, it's really, I'm loving hearing you guys, your opinions on things.

I think the other thing as well is for the guests, they can look back and see what people thought of their story or the way they've talked about different things. A hundred percent. And just see a different perspective. Because I'm sure they're, like some of them aren't used to hearing like our perspective or your perspective after having a chat with you about their stories.

Yeah, more relaxed.

Yeah,

and I think in future iterations, we want to take some questions going into it, right, from the Patreon community or just the community in general. Yeah, of course. I think that would add an extra element of it being more engaging as well, I guess.

Yeah.

But we're here to talk about Mark Dieran. Yeah. All right? So very interesting guy. You know, our third SAS person that we've had on. Yeah. And obviously we're going to have Dan. We're going to talk about Dan as well in the next one. But he is not a one-dimensional person, is he not? He's done a lot of things. And I think thinking about the conversation with Mark and when we chatted beforehand, I said to him, I said, hey, I've heard lots of podcasts about you and your special operations experience. Let's talk about you and all the other things that you've done as well at the same time. So we spoke a lot about his experience as a person and all the other things he's doing or has done. Security contracting. You don't hear that story, right? Like from Australians, you hear a lot of that from the American standpoint. I think that was really interesting. We dig into that bit as well. Writing books, expedition guide all over the world, right? Build a whiskey company. Amazing whiskey. Shout out Dog Tag Distillery. Amazing stuff. I need some. Yeah, we need a bottle for the office. Me too. Exactly.

We'll hit him up, definitely.

But also supports veterans as well, and it's a great veteran-owned company as well. But amazing product. Great Tassie water. That's what they say. That's the key to great whiskey. But thinking about the chat, going back to it, what do you guys think about?