Podcast Episode

Jayden Francis & Jack Fryer - The Debrief | OTM #025

One True Measure
Sep 25, 202659 minEN
Host
JFJack Fryer

Who’s talking

2 speakers
Jayden Francis49 min · 88%
Jack Fryer7 min · 12%

Transcript

1151 turns · 59 min
JF
Jack Fryer0:00

Hello and welcome, uh, One True Measure Patreon team. Today we have a very special guest and a special episode. Uh, my name's Jack, a part of the, the greater One True Measure team. And, and today I've got with me, we've got Jayden.

JF
Jayden Francis0:15

Yeah. Hello. You guys recognize me, I hope. [laughs]

JF
Jack Fryer0:17

Surely. Surely by now-

JF
Jayden Francis0:19

Yeah [laughs]

JF
Jack Fryer0:19

... you recognize this face. Um, we're gonna go through this, uh, this young man's very interesting and, uh, and unique story and experiences today. Um, and I think we'll, we'll kick it off, mate. Do you wanna give a little bit of an introduction, uh, to yourself and, and then we can start to-

JF
Jayden Francis0:36

Yeah

JF
Jack Fryer0:36

... get into your early life stuff.

JF
Jayden Francis0:38

Yeah. So basically, uh, my name's Jayden. Um, I work here at Magic Studios, uh, where Blake films the One True Measure. So usually I'm on the other side of this.

JF
Jack Fryer0:48

Yep.

JF
Jayden Francis0:49

I don't really get to be on this side of the camera.

JF
Jack Fryer0:50

Roles, roles reversed.

JF
Jayden Francis0:51

Yeah. Um, but yeah, uh, did high school all here. Grew up in Singapore. Um, yeah, did a few little things entrepreneurial-

JF
Jack Fryer1:01

Yeah

JF
Jayden Francis1:01

... after leaving high school. Uh, worked in the... Yeah, done a bunch of stuff. Worked in the printing industry, selling software.

JF
Jack Fryer1:08

Yeah. Wow.

JF
Jayden Francis1:08

Um, worked in media marketing straight out of high school, doing a lot of admin and marketing-

JF
Jack Fryer1:13

Yeah

JF
Jayden Francis1:13

... and stuff on that side. Um, and then yeah, Chris gave me an opportunity to come work here. Um, love social media. Did, did... That's a big one. Yeah. [laughs]

JF
Jack Fryer1:22

[laughs]

JF
Jayden Francis1:23

Uh, did social media towards the end of high school, year 12-

JF
Jack Fryer1:25

Yeah

JF
Jayden Francis1:25

... and the year after that. Grew to about 95,000 followers.

JF
Jack Fryer1:28

Crikey.

JF
Jayden Francis1:29

Um, and then-

JF
Jack Fryer1:30

On what platform?

JF
Jayden Francis1:31

On TikTok.

JF
Jack Fryer1:31

TikTok. Yep.

JF
Jayden Francis1:32

Yeah. Um, then just fell out of love with it.

JF
Jack Fryer1:34

Yeah.

JF
Jayden Francis1:34

Yeah, it just wasn't what I wanted. I... So the way I thought about it in high school is I'd post what I would, what would do well.

JF
Jack Fryer1:42

Mm.

JF
Jayden Francis1:42

And then I just fell out of love what I was doing well.

JF
Jack Fryer1:44

Yeah.

JF
Jayden Francis1:45

Like, it was just... Yeah, it just wasn't what I liked anymore.

JF
Jack Fryer1:49

Straight away-

JF
Jayden Francis1:49

Yeah

JF
Jack Fryer1:50

... you, you talk about Singapore.

JF
Jayden Francis1:51

Yeah.

JF
Jack Fryer1:51

That's it. Like, in that whole intro-

JF
Jayden Francis1:53

[laughs]

JF
Jack Fryer1:53

... that just throws you straight away.

JF
Jayden Francis1:55

Yeah, yeah.

JF
Jack Fryer1:55

Like, how do... Why are you in Singapore? How'd you get there?

JF
Jayden Francis1:58

Um, Dad, Dad moved there in, like, the '80s.

JF
Jack Fryer2:00

Yeah. Wow, okay.

JF
Jayden Francis2:00

So he, he grew up in Melbourne, went traveling.

JF
Jack Fryer2:03

Yeah.

JF
Jayden Francis2:03

Um, got an opportunity in Hong Kong.

JF
Jack Fryer2:05

Mm-hmm.

JF
Jayden Francis2:05

And then from there moved to Singapore. Uh, Mum as well. Um, I don't, I actually have no clue why she moved to Singapore. Um, but yeah, so they met, had me obviously, 2003, born there.

JF
Jack Fryer2:17

Yeah.

JF
Jayden Francis2:17

Grew up in the local school system there, so very, very-

JF
Jack Fryer2:20

Hefty, bro

JF
Jayden Francis2:20

... um, strict.

JF
Jack Fryer2:21

So different.

JF
Jayden Francis2:22

Oh. I left there what, year 6? Didn't have to study till year 10 here.

JF
Jack Fryer2:26

Wow. Okay.

JF
Jayden Francis2:27

Like m- math at, like, a young age there.

JF
Jack Fryer2:29

Yeah.

JF
Jayden Francis2:30

Um, science, all that stuff.

JF
Jack Fryer2:31

Yeah.

JF
Jayden Francis2:32

The only hard thing is, like, it's not English in the way that it's, like not being able to speak English-

JF
Jack Fryer2:38

Mm

JF
Jayden Francis2:38

... just the way they teach English is, like how you'd learn maths. I don't know how to explain it.

JF
Jack Fryer2:43

Like a second language English?

JF
Jayden Francis2:45

No, it's like, it's still first language.

JF
Jack Fryer2:47

Yeah.

JF
Jayden Francis2:47

Um, but the way they teach it is, like, for example, the exams are multiple choice. Like you fill-

JF
Jack Fryer2:52

Yeah, wow

JF
Jayden Francis2:52

... fill in blanks, punctuation, stuff like that.

JF
Jack Fryer2:54

Yeah.

JF
Jayden Francis2:55

Then you'd go write an

Episode notes

Without Blake in the chair this time, Jack Fryer turns the mic around and sits down with Jayden Francis for a conversation about his own story. In the chat they talk through Jayden's childhood growing up in Singapore, being diagnosed with thyroid cancer at just 14, and being on Mount Kinabalu with his Tanjong Katong Primary School group during the 2015 Sabah earthquake. They also unpack what it was like moving from Singapore to Perth, how those early experiences shaped the way he sees resilience and risk, and the highs and lessons of his entrepreneurial journey.

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