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It's almost like Pilates sessions to get in there to get into my seat. I've actually been doing Pilates recently. Have you really? Yeah. That's great. No, I'm not throwing shade on Pilates as well. Pilates is amazing. Hey,
mate, that's how you get better at golf. Oh, mate. Flexibility is
king. It is, isn't
it? It's one of the hardest things I've done.
Oh, God. We could do a podcast on that. Hey, but we're not here. Hey, guys. Welcome back. We're doing a review for podcast number five. We haven't been here for a few weeks. We've been a bit busy recording. Yeah. Some great content in the end of Season 1, which has been awesome. So excited to be here today to talk about an awesome episode An awesome conversation with David Knopf. Super interesting guy. Some time ago now having that chat. So I had to really like think back and backtrack on it. But, you know, amazing experience in the army, obviously did the stuff in the diplomatic corps and then obviously Antarctic during COVID. It's one of those sorts of things. Not too many people have that story. It's one of those sorts of stories that you'd be like,
Yeah.
That is unusual. Super unusual. But before we get into the chat, obviously we've got Jaden, James Bunn here. We have Jack, our chief of staff as well for One True Measure. Jack's here getting on the pod.
Yes, sir. It's good to be in the space. Good to be joining in on the conversation. I think the really cool thing about this podcast is I don't actually think I would have naturally found Yeah. Found him. And that story has sort of flown on from not specializing, coming from episode one.
Mm-hmm. This brother's just sending it, doing whatever he wants
and just starting new adventures and sort of just running with it. And I think that's really
cool. And yeah, I mean, that's been a conscious decision, right? Like as choosing guests, we've got broad, different experience to try and see if there's this common thread of experience between people, success and that sort of stuff.
Obviously you have ex-army people on the podcast, but that type of story you're not going to find anywhere.
Really not. Yeah. No, really not. And he's a really good communicator and he's a really good bloke as well. So let's talk about David Knopf. So I think as we've spoken about, one of the biggest things and the episode's called 537, so 537 days, right? Yeah. In Antarctica. During COVID, during, you know, what is ultimately like the biggest lockdown, social movement situation, thing that happened, affected every single person on the planet. He's on the most isolated place in the world. He is there, cannot get home, and he's there managing people in that sort of environment. So there's so much complexity to that conversation that makes it like this super interesting social experiment. And he talks a lot about managing people, resilience, like the stress, right? I think back to COVID for me, the hardest thing potentially I think was the lack of social connection.
Yeah.
Yeah. That time specifically being in the workforce as well, like my job being labeled as an essential
service.
Yeah. We had these giant COVID barriers in front of you, like to make sure that you can still
Episode notes
Blake and the team sit down to discuss the conversation with David Knoff, their takeaways, key learns, as well as heading down a few philosophical rabbit holes. In the chat the team talk through what it takes to lead a team of 24 through an Antarctic winter with no way home, the difference between leading in a war zone versus leading in total isolation, and why uncertainty tests resilience more than danger ever does. They also unpack the lessons from 537 Days of Winter, and why David believes humanity's most extreme environments have the most to teach us about ourselves.