Podcast Episode

Dating Changes When You Realise This Ex Pickup Artist Neil Strauss ~ Chris Williamson

Chris Williamson’s Podcast

Oct 17, 20269 min

Who’s talking

2 speakers
Neil Strauss6 min · 72%
Chris Williamson2 min · 28%

1Transcript57 turns · 9 min

CW
Chris Williamson0:00

With LMS. Do you know what that is?

NS
Neil Strauss0:01

No.

CW
Chris Williamson0:02

Looks, money, status.

NS
Neil Strauss0:03

Right. It makes sense. Okay.

CW
Chris Williamson0:04

So it's the, uh, triage priority list that a lot of guys in the black pill movement rely on and say is most important. Looks is most important, then money, then status.

NS
Neil Strauss0:15

For men?

CW
Chris Williamson0:16

Yes, for men. What's your thoughts?

NS
Neil Strauss0:20

Uh, my thoughts is it's like, it's a sad way to think. [laughs] It's a sad, it's a sad way to think. Um, and, uh, I, I guess, like, I'm just, I'm just kinda thinking out loud. I got a bunch of thoughts on the, the stuff you're saying. Um, but to speak back to your, to speak back to your... what, what you were saying about what it's like to be someone, I think, like, I think mostly we're all living out our own stories of what it's like. And I think, like, if you choose to see the best in people, you're gonna notice the best behavior. If you choose to see the worst in people, you're gonna notice the worst, worst behavior. And I think you're-- it starts with the eyes you're seeing the world through. Uh, and so down to looks, money, status, I think that... I mean, I think sta- I would probably... I think they got it wrong. I, I think that, I think that there, there's, um, that... And how would they define status, I guess I'll ask you.

CW
Chris Williamson1:19

I wouldn't be too sure. I would guess something like popularity.

NS
Neil Strauss1:22

Right.

CW
Chris Williamson1:22

Um...

NS
Neil Strauss1:23

So I, I would say it's high status behaviors. And I mean, I know this because I went and hacked it in the game, right? As a guy who is not that good-looking, um, as a guy, like, who, at least at that time, didn't, didn't have any, like, you know, wasn't someone recognized, didn't have a lot, didn't have status, didn't have money, didn't have looks, didn't have fame. We realized-- And I also was a guy who, once I wrote the game, I had the people with the most looks, the most money, the most status calling me, like this fucking 5'6" big nose, [laughs] you know, dude who keeps saying "you know" and can't even articulate a really clean sentence, calling me for advice. The same shit I was taught I was deal- alone dealing with, they were dealing with the same thing. And I think it really goes down to, like, how you, how you, your s- the story you tell yourself, more than money, looks, and status, and then how you reflect that story.

CW
Chris Williamson2:14

Mm.

NS
Neil Strauss2:14

As a simple example, I've seen a lot of people with money, looks, and status engage in low status behaviors, meaning being insecure, being doubtful, not caring themselves well, not speaking, uh, just always being worried about what others are thinking about them, and whatever they ha- whatever, whatever those gained for them, they lost it. There's a line, there's like a troubadour poem that, like, that's something about the, when they were first sort of talking about making romance into art, uh, in that era, that's like the eyes, the eyes go forth to seek an image which they can then recommend to the heart. And so I think the money, looks, and status, like, might get your foot in the door. But after that, it's who you are that enables you to stay in that door, unless you're dealing with someone who has similarly low self-esteem, [laughs] right? And is just out there looking for a target who has those things.

CW
Chris Williamson3:07

Mm.

NS
Neil Strauss3:07

'Cause they've

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