Podcast Episode

What could possibly go wrong with Meta's Muse?

The Current
Oct 8, 202623 minEN-CA
Host
MGMatt Galloway
Guest
NNNicole Nguyen

Who’s talking

5 speakers
Nicole Nguyen16 min · 73%
Matt Galloway5 min · 21%
Speaker 144 sec · 3%
Speaker 523 sec · 2%
Mark Zuckerberg17 sec · 1%

Transcript

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MG
Matt Galloway0:34

Hello, I'm Matt Galloway, and this is The Current Podcast.

MZ
Mark Zuckerberg0:37

The personal agent that we shipped a few weeks ago, already helping millions of people with all kinds of different things. There are so many fun and novel parts of this experience. Uh, do you want to introduce yourself to everyone?

MG
Matt Galloway0:49

Hello, everyone. I'm Agrippa, and I'm here to brainstorm and get things done with you. What should we build?

MZ
Mark Zuckerberg0:56

Talking to your Muse, it, it's often the fastest way to get things done, and it is also just really fun and cute.

MG
Matt Galloway1:01

It's Mark Zuckerberg, big boss of Meta, who last month launched an AI agent called Muse. This is one of the most downloaded apps in Canada. It's supposed to be like a personal assistant, can track things like your spending, answer your emails, order your groceries. To do this, it requires a lot of your information. Who would turn their personal information over to Meta so that it could have its personal assistant run your life? Well, the Wall Street Journal's personal tech columnist, Nicole Nguyen, did just that. She's in San Francisco. Nicole, good morning.

NN
Nicole Nguyen1:32

Hello, good morning.

MG
Matt Galloway1:33

Describe-- I mean, I gave kind of the, the brief, uh, explanation, but describe what this is. What is Muse?

NN
Nicole Nguyen1:40

Muse is an AI agent, which is an artificial intelligence-powered technology that can operate software and click and type around the web for you. So unlike a standard chatbot that's, um, run by a large language model, uh, which can give you answers based on a corpus of data, so a training data set that's pretty static, an agent can, um, be dispatched out onto the internet to complete your to-do list.

MG
Matt Galloway2:13

People have said it's kind of like AI that has access to a computer in some ways.

NN
Nicole Nguyen2:17

Exactly.

MG
Matt Galloway2:18

Yeah.

NN
Nicole Nguyen2:18

Yes.

MG
Matt Galloway2:19

I describe this as a personal assistant. What does that mean in that context?

NN
Nicole Nguyen2:23

It is like a personal assistant in that you give it tasks, um, like say you are planning a trip abroad and you don't know exactly where to go, and you have a certain budget, and also you have dietary constraints, and you're looking for restaurant reservations. You can dump all of that to your AI agent, and it can parse what it needs to do and go out into the digital space and, um, book those reservations, look up hotels, m- give you the prices, and if it has information like your credit card or your address, it can actually complete those tasks, uh, without needing to ping you.

MG
Matt Galloway3:08

So the promise is that it will do kind of the, the, the busy, boring parts o- of your life for you?

NN
Nicole Nguyen3:14

That administrative drudgery is how I think of, um, what AI agents are, are best at, so that you, you're freed up to go outside and, and touch grass.

MG
Matt Galloway3:25

[laughs]

NN
Nicole Nguyen3:27

[laughs]

MG
Matt Galloway3:27

Which is what we all want, uh, in this life. You-

NN
Nicole Nguyen3:30

Yes

MG
Matt Galloway3:30

... you got

Episode notes

Meta's personal AI agent Muse is now one of Canada's most downloaded apps, and has attracted millions of users since it was first launched in September. It acts as a personal assistant and can help with things like paying bills and ordering food, but it relies on a lot of your personal information. We speak with the Wall Street Journal's personal tech columnist, Nicole Nguyen, who has tried the app and tells us why she finds it both incredible and terrifying at the same time.

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