Podcast Episode

How the beaver became the official symbol of Canada

The Current
Oct 7, 202625 minEN-CA
Host
MGMatt Galloway
Guests
CCColin CoatesNNNate Norman

Who’s talking

7 speakers
Colin Coates9 min · 36%
Nate Norman8 min · 31%
Matt Galloway6 min · 25%
Speaker 447 sec · 3%
Speaker 134 sec · 2%
Speaker 622 sec · 1%
1 other9 sec · 1%

Transcript

151 turns · 25 min
Speaker 10:00

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MG
Matt Galloway0:30

This is a CBC podcast. Hello, I'm Matt Galloway, and this is The Current podcast. A lot of things can happen on live radio. I've done some things, but I've never been peed on by a beaver.

CC
Colin Coates0:43

There now. There now.

MG
Matt Galloway0:44

Can you hear? Can you hear?

Speaker 40:45

[laughs] Oh, that's great.

CC
Colin Coates0:46

There, little sweetheart.

Speaker 40:47

That's, oh, how nice for you, Al. That's great.

CC
Colin Coates0:49

Such a lovely boy.

MG
Matt Galloway0:50

We should-

CC
Colin Coates0:50

And he's peeing on me.

MG
Matt Galloway0:51

We should warn them.

Speaker 40:52

Oh, no.

MG
Matt Galloway0:52

Right? That's Ma. That's Mama.

Speaker 40:53

Oh, no. [laughs]

CC
Colin Coates0:54

Aaron?

Speaker 40:55

[laughs] It doesn't stop.

CC
Colin Coates0:58

Anyway.

MG
Matt Galloway0:58

I think someone better rescue him.

CC
Colin Coates1:00

Listen.

Speaker 41:00

Merry Christmas, Al. [laughs]

CC
Colin Coates1:02

It's, it's a flood.

Speaker 41:03

[laughs]

CC
Colin Coates1:06

Listen, it's never happened before on the radio, I'm sure.

Speaker 41:09

[laughs]

MG
Matt Galloway1:09

I'm sure you're right. That's Alan Maitland, co-host of the CBC radio program, As It Happens, interviewing a beaver in 1974. 51 years ago, in March of 1975, the beaver became an official national symbol of Canada, and it all started because of a spat with our neighbors to the south. We'll hear more on that in just a moment. But today, during a similarly tense time in Canada-US relations, we are going to start with a beaver tale below the border, where Canada's symbol, the eager and mighty beaver, is becoming a conservation hero in an unlikely place. That place is the Utah desert. Nate Norman is a live beaver trapper and director of the Beaver Ecology and Relocation Collaborative at Utah State University. And we spoke last week when Nate was, as one does, attending the BeaverCon in Minneapolis. Here's our conversation. What is BeaverCon?

NN
Nate Norman2:00

[laughs] Uh, I guess BeaverCon is a, uh, conference. It happens every two years. Uh, it is just everything beaver, where we all come together and we, we talk about, uh, beavers and the things that they do for us on the environment and, uh, how we can keep them there.

MG
Matt Galloway2:16

It was a lot of fun, the BeaverCon?

NN
Nate Norman2:18

Oh, it's a lot of fun. All kinds of great stories, and it almost feels like I'm in, uh, school, returning for the, uh, the summer break and, uh, hanging out with all my friends again.

MG
Matt Galloway2:29

The stories that you would bring are stories of this project that relocates beavers in the Utah desert to help save drought-stricken rivers. Tell me a little bit about this and why this is necessary. How bad was the drought before you brought in the beavers?

NN
Nate Norman2:43

Well, Utah's always been a really dry area. You know, it's in the, the desert. And the removal of all the beavers historically has just added to, uh, that. And so, you know, we've had a lot of issues with ranchers and farmers that are losing water, and it's really important for their, their operations. And then we have a lot of people that live in Utah deserts as well. And so water's always

Episode notes

Do you know the story of how the beaver became an official symbol of Canada in 1975? Hint: it involved a real live beaver peeing on a CBC radio host during an anti-American campaign to "Keep the beaver Canadian!" We bring you the remarkable tale — and look at how it relates to the moment we're in right now politically with the US. Plus, a trip to the Utah desert, where our national symbol has become a conservation hero. We speak with Nate Norman, director of the Beaver Ecology & Relocation Collaborative at Utah State University, and Colin Coates, professor of Canadian studies and history at York University.

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