Podcast Episode

Do self-help books really work?

The Current
Oct 1, 202625 minEN
Host
MGMatt Galloway
Guests
TJToni JonesJSJeremy StephensonBBBeth Blum

Who’s talking

8 speakers
Toni Jones7 min · 27%
Jeremy Stephenson7 min · 27%
Matt Galloway6 min · 24%
Beth Blum4 min · 16%
Speaker 1030 sec · 2%
Mel Robbins25 sec · 2%
2 others27 sec · 2%

Transcript

126 turns · 25 min
TJ
Toni Jones0:00

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Speaker 20:30

This is a CBC podcast.

MG
Matt Galloway0:32

Hello, I'm Matt Galloway, and this is The Current podcast. Mel Robbins, Jay Shetty, Brené Brown, they're all household names.

MR
Mel Robbins0:41

I just heard about this thing called the let them theory. I freaking love this. If your friends are not inviting you out to brunch this weekend, let them. If the person that you're really attracted to is not interested in a commitment, let them. You think saying no will let the other person down. Well, guess what? When you say yes when you don't want to, you let yourself down and you let that person down.

TJ
Toni Jones1:07

Don't walk through the world looking for evidence that you're not enough, 'cause you'll always find it. Our worth and our belonging are not negotiated with other people.

MG
Matt Galloway1:14

Self-help is a multi-billion dollar industry, an entire ecosystem of books, podcasts, social media. Over 10,000 self-help books are published in the United States alone each year. They account for 17% of nonfiction book sales in Canada. How to Win Friends and Influence People is one of the most checked out books of all time at the New York City Library. And so we went out onto the streets of Toronto to talk to people about why they turn to self-help.

Speaker 71:40

Self-help books is almost like a guidance. It's not set in stone. It's almost a direction. If I'm going through some kind of minor crisis that doesn't necessarily warrant calling up my therapist, then maybe a self-help book would help. [laughs]

Speaker 21:53

I find self-help books really helpful to understand sometimes how I can improve myself. I really like the ones that help me at work, for example, to be a better leader or to be a better listener.

JS
Jeremy Stephenson2:05

I've read, like, one, but it's not, like, self-help. Like the habit loop or whatever. I wouldn't, I wouldn't slant or, like, judge self-help generally because anything could be self-help. Like, you read a magazine article that's impactful and you're like, "Oh, I like that and I'm gonna, like, carry myself differently."

MG
Matt Galloway2:20

What exactly makes a good self-help book? Does self-help actually work? How do you differentiate guru from grifter? [laughs] I'm joined by three people who have thought a lot about this. Beth Bloom is a professor of contemporary literature at Harvard and author of The Self-Help Compulsion: Searching for Advice in Modern Literature. Toni Jones runs an international self-help book club called Shelf Help, and she is the author of the mini self-help book, You! The Beginner's Guide. And Jeremy Stephenson is a clinical psychologist and author of 12 Levers: The Complete Psychological Toolkit for Improving Your Life. Good morning, everyone.

TJ
Toni Jones2:55

Hello. Good afternoon from the UK.

JS
Jeremy Stephenson2:57

Hello.

MG
Matt Galloway2:58

Toni, we'll start with you.

Episode notes

Self-Help is a multi-billion dollar industry — an entire ecosystem of books, podcasts, social media. Over ten-thousand self-help books are published in the US each year and they account for 17% of non-fiction book sales in Canada. What makes a good self help book? Does self help work? And how do you differentiate guru from grifter? Our panel of self help experts have answers.

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