Podcast Episode

What’s the right way to teach kids math?

Who’s talking

15 speakers
Julia Pagel10 min · 37%
Anna Stokke5 min · 19%
Martha Koch4 min · 14%
Seth Meyers2 min · 6%
Scott Hill2 min · 6%
Freddy1 min · 4%
9 others4 min · 14%

Transcript

144 turns · 28 min
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Seth Meyers0:00

Hi, this is Seth Meyers from the Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast. Oh, you guys, I don't have to tell you, nobody gives comedy more material than politicians, huh?

Speaker 20:08

That's right.

SM
Seth Meyers0:09

Yep. But you know what? Sometimes there's too much of a good thing, 'cause this year's political campaigns are gonna spend $10.5 billion on midterm ads, you know, and that's just distracting. Oh, wee, wow, that's a lot of money. Yeah, the numbers back it up. One in three Americans were so distracted by current events in the past year, they forgot to come up with an idea for dinner, according to a Harris Poll. That's a real crisis. We need to give people a solution to that crisis. You are, Kev, on the count of three, what's the solution? One, two, three.

Speaker 20:34

Burritos. It's an easy solve for dinner.

SM
Seth Meyers0:37

Sausages for dinner. [laughs] Johnsonville sausages is the protein of the people.

Speaker 20:42

That's a way better idea than burritos.

SM
Seth Meyers0:43

[laughs]

Speaker 20:43

I'm burrito'd out.

SM
Seth Meyers0:44

Okay, great. It's affordable. It's down to earth. It hasn't forgotten where it came from. It's the candidate you totally want to have a beer with. For dinner in America. Paid for by the Johnsonville Fund to keep America juicy.

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Scott Hill0:56

[upbeat jingle] This is a CBC podcast.

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Rebecca Zandbergen1:01

Hi, I'm Rebecca Zandbergen, and you're listening to The Current podcast. It is October now, and millions of children from across this country have settled back into their school routines. Still, there is concern students aren't learning what they need to, especially when it comes to math. OECD standardized test scores out last month show basic math skills have fallen to the lowest lever- level they've ever been in Canada. New Brunswick is experiencing the sharpest decline. The CBC's Julia Poguel went to one school in Gimli, Manitoba, where staff say big changes have meant big results for kids on their math tests. But along the way, she unearthed a deeper controversy about the best way to teach math. Here is her documentary, Are Your Kids Learning Math the Right Way?

Speaker 51:47

20 divided by four is what, Jackson?

Speaker 21:51

Five.

Speaker 51:51

Five. 12 divided by four is what, Veta? Three. You got it. 14-

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Julia Pagel1:58

I'm inside Dr. George Johnson Public School in Gimli, Manitoba. Grade four students are sitting quietly in rows, calling out the answers to a timed test they've just completed. It's something that happens most days in math class here.

Speaker 22:14

Uh, I like it.

Speaker 52:16

Why do you like it?

Speaker 22:16

Um, I just, I, I like math. I, I don't really know. Like, it's hard, but I, I like it.

Speaker 52:26

14 divided by seven is what, Karina?

Speaker 72:29

Two.

Speaker 52:29

Two. Excellent.

JP
Julia Pagel2:32

Focused kids in individual desks reciting answers to math questions. For some of you out there, you might be thinking, "Yeah, that's math class, so?" Well, at a time when math scores across the country and globally have been on the decline, turns out how you teach young people math is a hotly contested topic.

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Seth Meyers2:55

You don't compromise between good instruction and bad instruction. Why would anyone do that?

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Martha Koch3:01

As we get a bit exhausted with, you know, sort of this conversation about it being a dichotomy, because that way of thinking about it is both divisive, but it's also false.

JP
Julia Pagel3:10

But in Gimli, Manitoba, they've started to use something called direct instruction. And according to Jessica Warden, who works for this Manitoba

Episode notes

There have been alarm bells ringing for some time about dropping math scores in this country. In her documentary, “Are your kids learning math the right way?” CBC's Julia Pagel visits a school in Gimli, Manitoba, where new teaching strategies yield impressive test results — while sparking a deeper debate over the best way to teach math.

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