Podcast Episode

What Makes a Consumer AI Product Stick? | Josh Elman

The a16z Show
Episode 1203Sep 19, 20261 hrEN
Host
OFOli Forsyth
Guest
JEJosh Elman

Who’s talking

3 speakers
Josh Elman47 min · 79%
Oli Forsyth12 min · 20%
Speaker 246 sec · 1%

Transcript

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JE
Josh Elman0:00

It's never been easier to get consumers' attention. What's harder, I think, is getting me not just to try something, but to actually stick. It has to be such a good product doing that one thing really well out of the box that I either stop doing something else, or I turn more behaviors over to it. And we have a lot that we already have in our digital life. So now as a product, you have to figure out some new wedge into somebody's digital life, and then becoming so good that it becomes a habit, and that you can pull other people in. Things that I look for in a product are where it has a really clear value that you can describe to somebody. If you want to become a very big company, you have to start by-

Speaker 20:35

It's never been easier to get consumers' attention. The hard part is getting them to stick. In this episode, a16z partner Josh Elman joins Oli Forsyth on New Economies to discuss what it takes to build a lasting consumer product in the AI era. Josh explains why the best products start by doing one thing exceptionally well, become a habit, and then earn the right to do more. They also discuss why trust could become increasingly important as AI moves deeper into our lives, from shopping and entertainment to personal agents that know our preferences and act on our behalf. They also look at what might come after today's social networks, how AI could bring people together rather than replace human connection, and the signals Josh looks for when deciding whether a new consumer product can actually last.

OF
Oli Forsyth1:24

Hey, Josh, welcome to New Economies. Thank you so much for being here.

JE
Josh Elman1:28

Oli, thanks so much for having me. I can't wait.

OF
Oli Forsyth1:30

I'm super excited to have you here today as you are our fifth partner from a16z to join the show. We've had the likes of Justine Moore, Anish Acharya, Ali Yahya, David Haber, and now you. So I'm super excited to have you here. So thank you so much for joining us. You know, when I was thinking about the title for today's episode, there is so much happening in consumer tech and can't wait to dive in more with you. But let's start off with the basics. You've actually been on the investor side, you've been the founder side, the operator side. Now it's kind of like come full circle. Why are you back in investing mode?

JE
Josh Elman2:06

You know, when I think about a lot of my career when I got started in the late '90s, it was the dawn of the internet and this idea that we could make products that could change the world, that could get into hundreds of millions of people's hands and help them have a better life was so exciting to me. And I've kind of had this amazing career of doing it, and I've always find-- tried to find the right place. Sometimes it's been diving in and working on something that I was so passionate about that I wanted to help bring to the world. Sometimes it was, you know... In 2011, I had already been worked at LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter, and I thought, "Wow, maybe there's a great opportunity for me to help the next wave of companies." And so I became a VC and got to invest in a lot of the next wave of the mobile internet and the social internet. About eight years ago, I was like, "Maybe my best times will be spent helping build

Episode notes

a16z Partner Josh Elman joins Ollie Forsyth on New Economies to discuss the next wave of consumer AI and what separates a product people try once from one that becomes part of their everyday lives.

Josh argues that getting attention has actually become easier, but getting consumers to stick is harder than ever. He explains what he looks for in consumer products, why the best ones start with a narrow wedge and earn the right to do more, and why trust becomes increasingly important as AI agents gain access to more of our personal lives.

They also explore personal AI agents, the future of shopping and entertainment, why we haven’t seen another major social network emerge, and how AI could make technology more social rather than less, including agents that help people spend more time together in the real world.

This conversation originally appeared on the New Economies podcast.

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