Episode 19: Space Colonization, with Lucian Walkowicz and Erika Nesvold

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Welcome back to Dreaming Against the Machine. I'm your host, Adam Becker. This week's guests are Lucianne Walkowicz and Erika Nesvold. They are the co-founders of the Just Space Alliance, and both of them are astrophysicists of various stripes, uh, as am I, I suppose. And we are gonna talk this week about space colonization, and why all of us hate it. And also why it's not really gonna happen, not in the way that various sci-fi franchises might have you believe, and certainly not in the way that certain trillionaires might have you believe. It's a fun one. Let's get to it. Lucian, Erika, welcome to Dreaming Against the Machine.

Thanks for having us.

Hello.

Let's see. I met you, Lucian, back at, I think it was Dot Astronomy, uh, some disturbingly large amount of time ago, like 10 years ago or something like that.

[laughs] Yeah, maybe even more like 12, I think.

Oh, God.

Maybe 2014. I know.

Oh j-

The before times

I think that's true. That is terrifying. Um, and Erika, we... Well, we've never met in person, but we met online when the CBC asked us both to comment on... What was it exactly that they were asking us to comment on? Mars?

Probably Artemis. That was around the time-

Ah.