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Photon held a funeral for mobile apps; plus, Kevin Mandia’s new ‘agent swarm’ security startup

TechCrunch Startup News

Oct 5, 20267 min

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2Episode notes

Photon helps developers build AI agents that work over iMessage, SMS/RCS, email, and other messaging platforms. It's a bet that consumers will increasingly use agents instead of downloading apps.

Also, Kevin Mandia, best known as the founder of Mandiant, has a new startup that is using agent swarms to test and protect enterprises.

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