Podcast Episode

Bob Iger: Power, Succession, and Leading Disney Through Upheaval

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9 speakers
Bob Iger20 min · 60%
Nitin Nohria6 min · 20%
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3 others1 min · 4%

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96 turns · 34 min
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Speaker 20:30

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Nitin Nohria0:59

The main argument that I make in my book is that, uh, CEOs matter not because they do or control everything, but because they shape everything that matters. You had a predecessor who also had a very long tenure. You'd waited a long time to become CEO. You were very ready for it when you got the job. One of the first things that you had to do was to tell the very storied part of Disney, which was the animation business, that they needed, uh, a reset. And you brought in Pixar as a way to help the company reimagine its future. Can you walk us through how you had Disney confront this reality and what it took to get people to get on board?

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Bob Iger1:37

The signs were all there that Disney Animation was faltering and that its importance to the company was rather significant and therefore had to be fixed and fixed fast. And it wasn't that the company was in denial, but I think because that they had no solutions in terms of how to fix Disney Animation, uh, there wasn't any real movement to try to do so. Uh, they were kind of stuck in neutral in that regard, knowing there was a problem, but not knowing how to get out of it. I studied the company very carefully. It was very clear to me that at least in two thousand and four, two thousand and five when I became CEO, um, the, the animation, uh, business to the company and animation in particular was probably more important than any other business in terms of not just the bottom line, but the perception of the company. And so I felt a sense of urgency and I acted very quickly to address it. And that was to buy Pixar and to not only bring Pixar into Disney, but bring the leadership of Pixar into Disney Animation to turn Disney Animation around. And, and fortunately, um, it paid off. The people at Pixar that came in, John Lasseter and Ed Catmull, in fact turned Disney Animation around and relatively quickly. And, um, kind of the rest is history. The success of Disney Animation since then with movies like Moana and Frozen and Tangled and Zootopia has been very, very obvious, not just to the bottom line, but to the overall perception of Disney.

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Nitin Nohria3:11

One of the tasks that CEOs have to do is to both, uh, build on the heritage of the

Episode notes

Few executives have had to make as many high-stakes calls, over as many years, as former Disney CEO Bob Iger. In this conversation with former HBS dean Nitin Nohria, Iger shares what he’s learned about the decisions that really belong to the CEO: where to spend your time, when to step into a problem, when to get out of the way, how to shape culture, and how to lead when crisis becomes a constant.

Drawing on ideas from his new book, The CEO: The Role, the Reality, the Responsibility (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GD87T42Z), Nohria presses Iger on the realities of leading at the very top—including what Disney got wrong in its previous succession process and what Iger learned from having to return as CEO. They also discuss transforming Disney’s creative engine and using the power of the CEO role without letting that power distort your judgment.

00:00 How Iger Reinvented Disney Animation
02:12 Respecting the Past Without Being Trapped by It
05:01 How a CEO Shapes Company Culture
06:57 How CEOs Should Spend Their Time
09:38 What Disney Got Wrong About Succession
13:09 Returning to Disney as CEO
14:51 How Leaders Should Manage Creative Decisions
16:13 When—and How—to Intervene
18:46 When CEOs Should Speak Out
21:19 Staying Grounded When You Have Power
23:28 Who Tells the CEO the Truth?
25:01 The Responsibility CEOs

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