Can AI Actually Teach? Inside Oboe with Nir Zicherman

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dot com. The pushback that people would say, well, people aren't comfortable talking into a phone and recording their voice well that's not true because billions of people every day are having phone calls with each other and communicating in exactly that way so how could you say that people are not comfortable with that so i think it's all about a shift in perspective if you shift your perspective to say let me look at the behavior that people are already exhibiting and figure out the inefficiencies that exist that to me is a market opportunity so with podcasting was people were already exhibiting the behavior of storytelling and communicating and talking into their phones they just weren't recording them and distributing them through a particular channel

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Welcome to EdTech Insiders. We have a really amazing and very, very interesting guest with us today. We're talking to Nir Zikkerman. He's the CEO of Oboe. That's oboe.com, like the instrument. Oboe's mission is to teach 1 billion people 1 trillion things. And Nir has an amazing background for EdTech, right? In 2015, Nir co-founded Anchor, which grew to become the world's largest podcasting platform. After Spotify acquired Anchor in 2019 and basically became Spotify for podcasters, he led Spotify's expansion into audiobooks as the VP of audiobooks. And now he's working with Oboe, which is an incredible platform. If you haven't yet experienced it, I recommend you do, and we'll talk about it a lot today. Nir Zickerman, welcome to EdTech Insiders. Thank

you so much for having me. I got to tell you, Alex, since I worked in podcasting and audiobooks for a long time, you have a fantastic podcast voice. I don't know if people have told you that. No,

I've never actually been told that, and that's great to hear. I appreciate it a lot. So thank you. Yeah, that comes from somebody with an enormous amount of podcasting experience. Let's start there, because I don't think we've ever talked to somebody who came into the edtech world from this incredible media podcasting sort of empire. So based on your experience building podcasts, Anchor, which has reached millions and millions and millions of users, and now moving into the