Getting More Runs from the GPUs You Already Own
The Nebius for Startups Podcast
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Today, compute is like oxygen. It's no longer an option to be multi-cloud. By necessity, you have to do it on day one. If you think about the most important software companies in the last two decades or so, almost all of them are open source. Can you imagine an agent trying to adopt some proprietary? It's just, they just don't do that. We were wrong in building just for compute efficiency early on. Like, wasted GPU hours are expensive, but wasted human hours are even more expensive.
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Welcome, Zhongheng. How are you today?
I'm good. Thanks for having me.
Thank you for being here.
Oh.
It's been a while.
Yeah, yeah. How are you guys?
Doing well. [laughs]
Excited. Excited for our conversation today.
So I wanted to start and just hear a bit from you, if you can just say what your name is, and in a sentence or so, what SkyPilot does.
So I'm Zhongheng. I'm co-founder and CEO of SkyPilot. Uh, SkyPilot is essentially a platform for all AI compute. Uh, we basically help AI teams bring in their GPU fleets, and we manage them, we help them, uh, uh, get a lot of utilization out of the GPUs. We help their research teams go faster.
You've, you've actually had a much deeper history in research, of course at, at Berkeley, but also in other organizations.
Yeah, for sure. Um, before my PhD, I, I actually worked at Google Brain, but at the time it was very, very, uh, uh, premature, I would say. Uh, super early days. Uh, it's very hard to even get text to speech to work, right? Text to speech meaning, hey, you input, uh, uh, some text, such as a news article, right? And you get speech out, right? Maybe you can listen to it on your, on your commute or something. Um, so Tacotron was really one of the first, uh, effective architectures that, uh, produced really natural-sounding, uh, speech from text. Um, and I was lucky to have contributed a little bit to that research effort.
Tying together your research on Tacotron, and then going over to building and launching SkyPilot, it's interesting that those are both two compute-intensive experiments and research projects to, to have worked on. When you think about that time and how everybody was kind of stuck on work using AWS, and even though they needed this other compute, right, they weren't motivated maybe to, like, figure that out. Or like, what was it specifically, I would say, that, like, caused you to have to solve that problem?
Yeah. Um, I remember at the time when we were in Berkeley, uh, you know, couple years into our PhD, um, we were... The, by we, I mean the co-founders of, of SkyPilot, right? We were actually AI plus system researchers as o- ourselves. We were actually doing AI stuff. And so through, through all these AI projects, my co-founders and I were, like, deep in the weeds of training models, right? Trying to get compute to, to run our jobs. And, and we felt the pain. We felt the pain, uh, uh, firsthand, that you really want to have good software systems that allow AI progress to iterate faster, right? To, to get to that AI progress faster. Um, I think that, that's kind of what motivated us to, hey, let's take a stab at this problem, right? Let's, let's build a system for our own use. And it turns
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GPU scarcity has forced AI teams into a world their infrastructure was never built for — reserving capacity across multiple providers, geographies, and SKUs and watching 30 to 40 percent of expensive allocations sit idle. In this episode, Zongheng Yang, co-founder and CEO of SkyPilot, joins the hosts to unpack why being multi-cloud stopped being optional for AI teams and what it actually takes to manage compute efficiently once you have it.
Before founding SkyPilot, Zongheng was a speech researcher at Google Brain and a co-author on Tacotron, a PhD student at UC Berkeley's Sky Computing Lab (the birthplace of Ray, Spark, and VLM), and a contributor to the early open-weight model Vicuna. He and his co-founders built SkyPilot to solve their own problem as AI researchers: compute scattered across multiple clouds being impossible to fully utilize. Four years and 14 million downloads later, SkyPilot has become an open source standard for orchestrating AI compute across providers, with more than 280 contributors and customers including Nubank, Abridge, and Hippocratic AI running production workloads on it.
Zongheng breaks down why decades-old solutions like Kubernetes and Slurm quickly buckle under the combinatorial complexity of multiple clouds, multiple GPU SKUs, and multiple research teams competing for the same fleet. He explains why idle GPUs, not just scarce ones, are the