Podcast Episode

How a $5B founder is using AI (3 tutorials)

My First Million
Aug 26, 20261 hr 9 minEN

Who’s talking

5 speakers
Wade Foster37 min · 55%
Shaan Puri17 min · 25%
Sam Parr12 min · 18%
Speaker 431 sec · 1%
Speaker 510 sec · 0%

Transcript

456 turns · 1 hr 8 min
SP
Shaan Puri0:00

Wait, wait, Sam, you gotta clickbait it up. How a $5 billion founder is using AI to change his life.

SP
Sam Parr0:07

Well, are you a five... What are you guys worth now?

WF
Wade Foster0:09

Who knows?

SP
Sam Parr0:10

You know.

SP
Shaan Puri0:11

[laughs]

SP
Sam Parr0:11

You know. You. You. [laughs]

WF
Wade Foster0:14

[laughs]

SP
Shaan Puri0:16

[upbeat music] All right, we should do a little intro. So first, do you... Is it... I've been saying Zapier my whole life. Is it Zapier or Zapier?

WF
Wade Foster0:32

Zapier makes you happier is the trick. It rhymes with happier.

SP
Shaan Puri0:35

Zapier makes you happier.

WF
Wade Foster0:35

Yep.

SP
Shaan Puri0:36

Wow. Dude, how is that not your slogan? Here's your s- here's what your slogan is on your site. The automation layer for agentic AI. It doesn't really flow the same way as Zapier makes you happier.

WF
Wade Foster0:45

It doesn't. It doesn't. We could-

SP
Shaan Puri0:46

[laughs]

WF
Wade Foster0:46

So there's two things from the name. We... One, we just couldn't afford the second P when we started [laughs] when the domain was available.

SP
Shaan Puri0:52

[laughs]

WF
Wade Foster0:53

But the other, like, we were too clever for our own good, is it has API in the name, which we always thought, like, "Oh, that's neat," 'cause it's all m- connecting all the A- these APIs and all that good stuff.

SP
Sam Parr1:03

I didn't even notice that.

SP
Shaan Puri1:04

Didn't notice that.

SP
Sam Parr1:05

Uh, yeah. [laughs]

SP
Shaan Puri1:06

Honestly, didn't even notice the P was missing.

WF
Wade Foster1:09

Like I said-

SP
Sam Parr1:09

[laughs]

WF
Wade Foster1:09

[laughs]

SP
Sam Parr1:10

But it also, if you put Zapier makes you happier, I would've read it as Zapier makes you happier.

WF
Wade Foster1:15

Zapier makes you happier. [laughs]

SP
Shaan Puri1:16

What?

WF
Wade Foster1:16

Just go on with your day.

SP
Sam Parr1:19

[laughs] But we're happy you're here.

WF
Wade Foster1:21

Thank you.

SP
Shaan Puri1:22

The short story is you're this guy who's built this really cool... Started off as a very simple idea where you can make different apps connect with each other. What does that really mean? Let's say I have a business and people submit a form over here on my form thing, but then I kinda need that form thing, I need all the people who submitted the form, I need that data to go over here in this other unrelated app. And you guys built those, like, universal plugs, and you could just plug in anything to anything else, and it was just incredibly useful. Sam used it. I used it. We didn't realize, or I didn't realize, how monstrous of a business this had become. I believe you guys are worth d- m- several billions. Maybe five billion was a number that I had seen at some point in time. And I think you had bootstrapped a very long way. I don't... Is it purely bootstrap, or you at some point took some money?

WF
Wade Foster2:07

I think the word people call it now is seed strap. So we did go through YC, and we raised about a million and change, but that's all the primary capital we've ever taken.

SP
Shaan Puri2:16

Yeah, so just incredibly... To, to raise a million bucks and then get to five billion in value is just pretty, pretty wild. So super cool, but you're here not to necessarily tell the whole story of how Zapier makes you happier, but to show us what you're doing with AI. Can you give me a public sales pitch real quick? I'm requesting a sales pitch, and what I want-

WF
Wade Foster2:35

[laughs]

SP
Shaan Puri2:35

... is I know how OG V1 of Zapier worked, where you-

WF
Wade Foster2:39

Yeah

SP
Shaan Puri2:39

... connect one app to another. You're saying, "Hey, we have this new AI product that you use with Claude," presumably makes your Claude or ChatGPT usage more powerful-

WF
Wade Foster2:49

Yeah

SP
Shaan Puri2:49

... whatever. I haven't been using that. I also, here's the other caveat, I'm kinda dumb. So, like, imagine talking to

Episode notes

How Wade uses AI (steal his prompts): https://clickhubspot.com/efcd

Episode 856: Sam Parr ( https://x.com/theSamParr ) and Shaan Puri ( https://x.com/ShaanVP ) talk to Wade Foster ( https://x.com/wadefoster ) about how he uses AI to save himself hours of work every day.  

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Show Notes:

(0:00) intro

(2:27) The sales pitch 

(7:04) My Robot Executive Staff, Waking Up Like The President

(14:13) Evening brief

(17:39) AI that argues with you

(19:32) War Council skill

(31:53) How to use AI to hire better

(48:15) being a billionaire before 40

(51:17) a case for not having a chip on your shoulder

(54:36) 1-dimensional winners

(1:00:55) recommended reading

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Links:

• Zapier - https://zapier.com/ 

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Check Out Sam's Stuff:

• Hampton (joinhampton.com): My community for founders. Average member does $25m/year. Many of the guests are members. Get after it...apply: http://joinhampton.com/mfm

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Check Out Shaan's Stuff:

• Shaan's weekly email - https://www.shaanpuri.com 

• Visit https://www.somewhere.com/mfm to hire worldwide talent like Shaan and get $500 off for being an MFM listener. Hire developers,

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