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255 turns · 43 minIf this was a VHS tape, it would be labeled Sean Hardcore Part Two. [laughs]
People would not be getting what they thought they were getting. [laughs]
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Like, "There's the Indian guy at his desk screaming about management hacks."
CEO. [laughs]
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[singing] I feel like I could rule the world. I know I could be what I want to. Uh. I put my all in it like no days off. On the road less traveled, never looking back.
What I wanna talk about is basically if you're a CEO of a company, if you're rec- running a company right now, which I think a lot of people listening to this are, there's a good chance you're not being hardcore enough. And what I wanna talk about is, like, six or seven real anecdote stories of what CEOs do, moves that CEOs do that sound wrong, sound almost illegal, but they actually work. The idea being when you're a CEO, there's no CEO school, there's no CEO training, there's no- nobody there to manage you. You're the one managing everybody else, and most people don't even give you, like, real feedback 'cause you're kind of their boss. You're in charge.
Is this, like, famous examples or your friends?
I have a mix of examples you'll know, examples I think you won't know, but they're of famous companies, and then one or two from my friends. Okay, so I have, I have one, two, three, four, five, six... I have, like, seven.
And whenever you come up with ideas like this, which you do all the time, they interest me. But what also interests me is why you care. Why do you care right now?
[laughs] Well, two things. One is, in general, like, I wanna be better at what I do, and so if I ever hear of somebody else doing something that I think could be either I haven't tried or I think, like, "Wow, that sounds kinda crazy, but I guess I see how that might work," it's like I kinda found a new move in a video game, and I like to know that. But the other is we talk a lot about, almost to the point of it being obnoxious, this phrase frame breaking, which is you see the world a certain way and it seems like there's a, there's a border. Everything about the world fits inside that frame. And then you'll hear this story that will just be outside of the frame. It breaks the frame. The frame has to expand to now incorporate this new information, and I don't know why I love it. I love it like dudes love-
Yeah
... Pokemon cards. I just wanna collect as many of those frame breaking-
Okay
... ideas and stories. And the, the reason why is if you've ever heard that story of, like, the elephant who at a young age, like, they tether him to the stake in the ground, and then he grows and now he's so powerful he could easily rip out the stake, but he doesn't. There, there's many examples in my life where it feels like there's the illusion of control, that, like, I'm limited by something that in, in actuality I'm not limited by at all. The stories I'm gonna tell you are sort of like elephant and the stake things where you're like, "Oh, I co- I couldn't possibly do that." Why not? Why can't you do that? Before I go into, like, kind of the famous stories of people you know doing this, I'll tell you the guy who I was having breakfast with that told me a story like this that
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Episode 857: Sam Parr ( https://x.com/theSamParr ) and Shaan Puri ( https://x.com/ShaanVP ) talk about the extreme behaviors of the most legendary CEOs.
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Show Notes:
(0:00) CEO Moves
(2:49) Move 1: Option Drop
(10:39) Move 2: Friction Removal Service
(12:55) Move 3: 1-bit communication
(19:35) Move 4: Single-tasking
(23:18) Move 5: Continuous culling
(26:05) Move 6: Reward failure
(27:06) Move 7: Clone yourself
(30:18) Alternative: Give up on greatness (also fine)
(35:59) Just be great
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