Podcast Episode

Petra Mathers and Her Michael | From Death of an Artist

Who’s talking

23 speakers
Maya Shankar8 min · 18%
Michael Coy7 min · 16%
Marsha Etrow6 min · 13%
Michael Brasky4 min · 9%
Eric Halverson3 min · 7%
Cory Gehrig3 min · 6%
17 others14 min · 31%

Transcript

371 turns · 50 min
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Alice Gregory0:00

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Maya Shankar0:04

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Maya Shankar1:21

On this show, we talk a lot about how small gestures can make a meaningful difference during moments of change. Recently, I received a Spoonful of Comfort package, and it reminded me just how powerful those gestures can be. The care in the packaging, the warmth of the soup, the salt in the chocolate chip cookies, the personal note, it made me feel seen and special during a busy, overwhelming week. And I found myself wanting to pass that feeling along, so I sent a package to my friend and lead producer of this show, Megan Louvin, because I love her and I love working with her to make a slight change of plans. She told me that it brought a moment of calm and comfort she didn't expect. If someone in your life is going through a change, big or small, Spoonful of Comfort is a warm reminder that love can travel any distance. Send one today at sendaspoonful.com. That's sendaspoonful.com. [bright music] Pushkin. Hey, listeners. Maya here. Today, I'm sharing a preview of a new podcast series, Death of an Artist, by journalists Leon Neyfakh and Alice Gregory. I think you'll love it. It's about a beloved children's book author and her photographer husband, whose joint suicide left behind an uneasy fraternity of friends and family who were caught between grief, confusion, anger, and admiration, emotions we talk about all the time on A Slight Change of Plans. If you enjoy stories about complex human choices, this is a series you should hear. Here's episode one. If you enjoy it, you can find more episodes of Death of an Artist wherever you get podcasts. And to hear the entire season now, ad-free, sign up for a Pushkin Plus subscription on the Death of an Artist Apple Show page, or at pushkin.fm/plus.

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Alice Gregory3:20

This podcast is about suicide. Listener discretion is advised.

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Patty Flynn3:27

Hello, you've reached Michael and Petra Mathers. Leave us a message. Thank you.

Episode notes

Here’s a preview of another Pushkin podcast, one that explores many of the topics we cover here on A Slight Change of Plans: grief, jealousy, anger, and awe. It’s called Death of an Artist. 

In February 2024, celebrated children’s book author and illustrator Petra Mathers and her husband, photographer Michael Mathers, mailed letters to dozens of friends and family members to let them know they had died by suicide. Petra and Michael were by all accounts healthy, happy, and deeply in love. As much a love story as one about death, it begs the question: what did that decision do to the people left to mourn them?

Journalists Leon Neyfakh and Alice Gregory set out to interview everyone who got one of Petra and Michael’s letters—as one married couple trying to understand another. Told through intimate conversations with Petra and Michael’s friends and family about their own relationships to aging, grief, death, and the friends they thought they knew, Death of an Artist weaves together a portrait of a community grappling with the Mathers’ deaths and the final words they left behind.

Search for Death of an Artist wherever you get podcasts. And get early, ad-free access to the entire season now by subscribing to Pushkin+ on the Apple Podcasts show page or at pushkin.fm/plus.

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