Podcast Episode

When Panic Takes Over – And How to Break Free

A Slight Change of Plans
Episode 128Jun 16, 202618 minEN

Who’s talking

6 speakers
Maya Shankar19 min · 79%
Speaker 22 min · 7%
Jacob Goldstein1 min · 5%
Speaker 456 sec · 4%
Speaker 547 sec · 3%
Speaker 625 sec · 2%

Transcript

8 turns · 24 min
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Maya Shankar0:00

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Speaker 20:04

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Jacob Goldstein1:44

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Maya Shankar2:57

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Episode notes

Amazon editors just chose Maya’s new book, “The Other Side of Change,” as one of the Best Books of 2026 So Far! To celebrate, we’re sharing a chapter from the audiobook with you today. 

Journalist Matt Gutman spent years reporting live from high-pressure situations all over the world. Calm and collected on camera, he was privately dealing with panic attacks behind the scenes. Then, after an on-air mistake jeopardized his livelihood, Matt fell into a seemingly endless cycle of negative thoughts. 

Order “The Other Side of Change: Who We Become When Life Makes Other Plans” at changewithmaya.com/book, or wherever you like to buy books. If you’ve already read “The Other Side of Change,” leave a quick review here: 

Check out some of Maya’s favorite episodes of “A Slight Change of Plans” here. 

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