Podcast Episode

Friday Focus: America's security guarantee is tested, while Canada's AI strategy comes up short

Who’s talking

2 speakers
Rudyard Griffiths9 min · 57%
Janice Gross Stein7 min · 43%

Transcript

134 turns · 17 min
JS
Janice Gross Stein0:00

Iran's strategy is to drag this out virtually to the point of pain as long as it can. What that tells me, they believe they still have time.

RG
Rudyard Griffiths0:09

Yeah. [upbeat music] Welcome to the Friday Focus Podcast for the 5th of May, 2025. I'm Roger Griffiths in studio with my co-host, Janice Gross Stein. Hey, Janice.

JS
Janice Gross Stein0:19

Good morning, Roger. It's a beautiful sunny-

RG
Rudyard Griffiths0:23

It's been a scorcher of a week here in central Canada-

JS
Janice Gross Stein0:25

It-

RG
Rudyard Griffiths0:25

... and a nice respite from, uh, a slow start, uh, to the spring. And now it seems like we're in summer.

JS
Janice Gross Stein0:31

We are.

RG
Rudyard Griffiths0:32

Uh, let's start the show, unfortunately, ha- as we've had to for the last number of weeks, just catching our audience up on the events of, uh, the Iran-Israel-US war. Um, I guess the latest news as we record Friday morning is, uh, a seeming indication, demand from the Trump administration that an agreement be signed in Geneva, no less, uh, next week. Um, are we starting, Janice, to run out of time here? Is there a scenario where this, for either protagonist, has to be brought to some kind of step change to move out of this stasis of a ceasefire that's not really a ceasefire, which is causing, obviously, big repercussions for both, uh, Iran and the United States, or could this go on for weeks?

JS
Janice Gross Stein1:24

This could go on for weeks, Roger. You know, what's the deadlines here? And I think that's a really great way to think about this. When does this have, absolutely have to come to an end? When Iran cannot store the oil on tankers that it is taking out of its wells. That's really the deadline here, and why is that? Because if it can't store the oil, it has to turn off, um, the oil wells. And once you do that, it can be a few years before you can restart them, and the cost to Iran of doing that are just huge. How many more rusty tankers, um, can Iran find at this point? Because it's offloading oil into cargo island. So estimates, there's no consistency here, but it's w- it's weeks, at most a few more months. So there is that hard stop, frankly.

RG
Rudyard Griffiths2:22

But Janice, a few more months out, we would be seeing, uh, by every indication, oil at 150 to $200 a barrel-

JS
Janice Gross Stein2:31

Yeah

RG
Rudyard Griffiths2:31

... jet fuel drying up in Asia. There are now shortages of plastic bags and other plastic products in, in Japan. There's a lot of analysis to suggest literally the next few weeks-

JS
Janice Gross Stein2:42

Yeah

RG
Rudyard Griffiths2:42

... could see that hockey stick chart emerge-

JS
Janice Gross Stein2:45

Yeah

RG
Rudyard Griffiths2:45

... of world energy prices skyrocketing as the reserves that were either floating in the water or sitting in people's tanks, those tanks have been drawn down. And interestingly, a bit like the Iranian problem, the- we have a problem, which is you can't draw your tanks all the way down.

JS
Janice Gross Stein3:02

That's right.

RG
Rudyard Griffiths3:03

You, uh... It's a bit like your plumbing system in your house. You have to have pressure in the pipes. You, you can't empty [laughs] your-

JS
Janice Gross Stein3:10

You're right

RG
Rudyard Griffiths3:10

... your pipelines of, of oil. So we're, we're hitting so-called tank bottom too, in roughly, if you believe, again, a lot of different analysis out there, but roughly in a schedule that corresponds with the Iranians. So-

JS
Janice Gross Stein3:24

That's what this is-

RG
Rudyard Griffiths3:24

What do we do? I mean, how did, how do these deadlines that clearly lie out there, in some cases maybe weeks in the future, not months, impress back on this moment?

JS
Janice Gross Stein3:33

Y- That's exactly right. So what

Episode notes

Iran and the U.S. remain locked in a dangerous standoff over the Strait of Hormuz that could drag on for weeks. How does this end? What pressure points could force either side to negotiate in good faith? Meanwhile, Iran continues to strike American allies across the region without a meaningful U.S. military response. What message does that send about the credibility of America's security guarantees?

In the second half of the show, Rudyard and Janice examine the government's new AI strategy. Filled with promises of sovereignty, privacy, and transparency, it may sound reassuring on paper—but where is the plan to counter the growing power of the tech giants that control this technology? Talk of sovereign AI and stronger privacy rules is meaningless without a strategy to compete with companies that are increasingly viewed as strategic assets of the U.S. government.

And while Ottawa talks about AI, it continues to ignore the deeper reforms needed to unlock growth: tax reform, regulatory reform, and stronger competition policy. Canada cannot build an AI economy without first addressing the structural barriers holding back its broader economy.

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