Podcast Episode

Q+A: The humble text message is getting a major upgrade

Fear & Greed Q+A
Sep 17, 202612 minEN
Host
MTMichael Thompson
Guest
HHHugh Haley

Who’s talking

2 speakers
Hugh Haley8 min · 69%
Michael Thompson4 min · 31%

Transcript

25 turns · 12 min
MT
Michael Thompson0:05

Welcome to Fear and Greed Q&A, where we ask and answer questions about business, investing, economics, politics, and more. I'm Michael Thompson. Now, text messaging has been around for decades now, but the humble SMS is about to get a pretty significant upgrade. A technology called RCS is designed to make the standard messaging app on your phone a whole lot more interactive. Businesses essentially, as far as I understand it, can have two-way conversations with customers, you can have images and buttons, and importantly, verify who they are It's pretty well established overseas. Now it's gaining momentum here in Australia. Hugh Haley is Senior Director, Partners and Carriers, APAC at Cinch, which is a great supporter of fear and greed. Hugh, welcome to Fear and Greed Q&A.

HH
Hugh Haley0:48

Thank you, Michael.

MT
Michael Thompson0:49

Did I get that roughly right in the intro? Because most of us have been using SMS forever. What is actually changing here? Well,

HH
Hugh Haley0:59

Surprisingly, yeah, really good. I'm not sure what I can add on top of it.

MT
Michael Thompson1:03

You're no longer needed here. Thanks for your

HH
Hugh Haley1:06

time. RCS actually is a present technology in Australia already. If you're using an Android device, you'll use RCS to send messages from Android device to Android device. What's changing is that iOS, Apple, and Google Android are going to interconnect, so they're going to play nicely together. So that's the fundamental change. And then the upshot is that that gives businesses access to a kind of richer messaging environment. But the fundamental thing that's driving this is Google Android devices are going to play nicer with Apple devices. So peer-to-peer, you can send me a picture You can join an iOS group chat. So there's kind of an uplift for peer-to-peer, but then also the benefit for businesses comes in, effectively allows businesses to completely transform the way they talk to their customers in that messaging inbox.

MT
Michael Thompson2:05

Just even just as a consumer, I think we've all had those kind of group chats where all of a sudden one person is using an Android phone and it means that no one is getting the blue messages anymore. They're not

HH
Hugh Haley2:17

welcome to the party.

MT
Michael Thompson2:19

Indeed, and they do get excluded quite quickly. So is it about then replacing SMS or will the two kind of coexist essentially or is it just adapting what we currently have?

HH
Hugh Haley2:33

Like, I mean, it's not going to be like a rapid change. Ultimately, a sort of user-to-user level that will be rolled out quite rapidly. But then the way that the operating systems are going to play nicely with each other is going to be launched slowly by carriers, right? So one of the reasons this hasn't already arrived in Australia is the way that they interconnect is at a carrier level. So Telstra, Optus and TPG will need to do some work in order to make this happen. Now, it's too early to say, but we're pretty confident we'll be seeing at least one Telco live this year, which is exciting. I can't name who they are, but we'll be working to have RCS 2A network live in Australia this year. the other two carriers will then subsequently need to do that bit of work to enable everyone to get access to the improvements of the service.

MT
Michael Thompson3:30

And I imagine once one does, the pressure

HH
Hugh Haley3:33

is on

MT
Michael Thompson3:33

the other two

HH
Hugh Haley3:33

to get

MT
Michael Thompson3:34

moving

Episode notes

The humble text message is about to get a major upgrade. RCS messaging promises to bring verified senders, images, video, buttons and two-way conversations into the standard messaging inbox – potentially changing the way businesses communicate with customers.

Michael Thompson speaks with Hugh Haley, Senior Director, Partners and Carriers, APAC at Sinch, about why RCS is gaining momentum in Australia, the opportunities for businesses, and how to avoid turning the messaging inbox into yet another advertising feed.

Sinch is a supporter of Fear & Greed.

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