Podcast Episode

Jack Dorsey's Buzz: The New Hermes Agent?

Who’s talking

2 speakers
Vinny27 min · 70%
Greg Isenberg11 min · 30%

Transcript

109 turns · 39 min
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Greg Isenberg0:00

Jack Dorsey just launched Buzz and it's gone completely viral. Yes, it's the same Jack Dorsey who co-founded Twitter, who co-founded Block. This guy is building what people are calling a Slack killer. Now, why does this matter for you? Well, it's being called a Slack killer because it's almost like this agentic version of Slack. It's a way to have, uh, conversations with your teammates, except they're agents. It's a way for you to huddle agents. It's a way for you to have software being built on the fly via agent. So in this episode, we're going to break down it so clearly for you so that you understand what it is, why you should use it, and what are the best tips and tricks to use Buzz. My take on this whole thing is it's a glimpse into the future of work. I can't wait to see what you think about it. And the e-- by the end of the episode, you'll understand if it's for you, why you should use it, how you should use it. Enjoy the episode. [upbeat music] The Startup Ideas Podcast. It's sippin' time, baby. What's up, Vinny? I saw your tweet. Uh, Jack Dorsey retweeted it. By the end of this episode, what are people gonna learn?

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Vinny1:14

They're gonna learn how to use, um, Buzz. Uh, mostly I think it's, like, the sweet spot for, um, Buzz right now is, I think, uh, solopreneurs, uh, small teams. Um, they're gonna learn how to use it to, like, kind of brainstorm, keep everything in context between their agents and just, uh, you know, build products, build solutions, ideate and, and like, um, yeah, use it to, to get stuff out there quicker and be more productive.

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Greg Isenberg1:44

Cool. Okay, so what I, what I hope to get from this is basically understand what Buzz is, understand why it matters, understand some best practices on how I can use it to actually use agents to do things for me. Um, and by the end of this episode, I wanna understand if I should actually use this thing or should I just basically continue using Slack? Um, and that's what I hope to get ou-out of this. Do you think-

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Vinny2:11

Yeah

GI
Greg Isenberg2:11

... you think you can commit to that? And also, while you're going through it, just share the best practices that haven't been shared anywhere so that, you know, we-- we've, we've got a little edge on people. You think you can do that?

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Vinny2:23

Yeah, I think so. Um, I just wanna start off by saying like, uh, I think the Slack killer, you know, it's a good line that it's a Slack killer. Um, but I think the real, like, the real, um, selling point for me for, uh, with Buzz, like from the beginning, is just the, the openness of it. So, um, do we wanna start there? Just like what I mean by open and, and what kind of like, what that allows, like the power, uh, how powerful the openness feature of Buzz is.

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Greg Isenberg2:52

Yeah. I mean, sell me on Buzz. Like why-

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Vinny2:54

Okay. Okay.

GI
Greg Isenberg2:55

Yeah.

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Vinny2:56

Um, so first off, um, it's Slack with agents inside and a lot of people... Like, it's kind of like Slack. You got agents inside, so Slack allows you to do that, um, but by adding an integration. But, um, in Buzz, they're like first-class citizens, right? So they're members of your team. You don't think of them as like, uh, add-ons or just kind of a, um, a side feature. They're an integral part of, of the app. They are part of your team. Think about it

Episode notes

I sit down with Vinny for a live tour of Buzz, an open source, agent-native chat app from Block built on an open protocol. Vinny makes the case that openness is the real story here: agents arrive as first-class teammates, the harness underneath each agent swaps freely between Claude Code, Codex, Goose, and open code, and your entire chat context travels with you through every swap. He demos real output, including a CRM app built with the Wasp full stack framework and deployed to Railway, plus a tweet leaderboard that pipes daily stats back into a channel through a public API. I press him for the honest state of the software and for the setup advice he actually uses day to day. By the end I share where I land on Buzz versus Slack, and why I think anyone building right now gains from putting their hands on tools like this.

Timestamps

00:00 – Intro

02:57 – Agents as First-Class Team Members

03:49 – Swappable Harnesses Under Any Agent

06:55 – Audio Huddles With Agents

08:34 – Git, Feature Branches, and Parallel Worktrees

11:20 – Building a CRM App with Buzz and Agents

13:43 – Why This Matters

18:13 – Best way to engage with your Agents

23:53 – Shared Compute and Local Models

25:42 – Model Choice, Data Ownership, and Lock-In

27:36 – Context as the Foundation

29:39 – Setting Up Agents

31:21 – Skills and Speed

33:03 – Who Should Try Buzz Today

34:36 – My Take: Live in

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