Grok 4.5 is a bigger deal than Fable

I'll say it. I'm a Groq convert, and I don't say it lightly. Groq 4.5 is a huge deal. By the end of this episode, you're gonna understand how to use Groq 4.5 with Hermes to act as almost this AI co-founder for you. We break down everything for you every step of the way, and the people that stick around to the end of this episode, I believe will be able to outperform ninety-nine percent of people on this planet. Groq 4.5, I didn't think it was a big deal, but it is a big deal, and by the end of this episode, I think you'll be a convert too. Enjoy the episode. [singing] The Startup Grind podcast. It's sippin' time, baby. Nick from Orgo back on the pod. He's my agent guy. I had to bring you back on, Nick, because I'm, I'm seeing a lot of buzz, hype around Groq 4.5. Nick, by the end of the episode, what are people going to learn?

I'm gonna teach you everything there is to know about why Groq 4.5 is the best model to be running inside of something like Hermes or OpenClaw today. And the real big unlock here is to treat it like a genuine co-founder, something that has access to all your tools, capabilities, so on and so forth, and s- and stop, you know, being so shy about what AI can do. When you give a tool like, uh, Hermes and you, you run it with Groq, and it's so... You know, it just wants to reach for every tool and actually go out and do things for you, that's the big unlock. And a lot of people, they're gonna experience for the first time what that feels like with Groq 4.5, just 'cause of how fast, cheap, and accessible it is to everybody. So yeah, I'm excited to get this in the hands of everyone.

Okay. So, I mean, walk me through that a little bit. Like, you know, what-- why is this Groq 4.5 release so big? Um, and why should, why should people care?

So the, the biggest thing with Groq, um, the reason why it's such a kind of viral moment right now is because we've had intelligent models since, you know, Opus 4.5 came out. And in a lot of ways, the release of something like Opus 4.5 from Anthropic back in December and January, that was what led to the Claude bot, the OpenClaude moment. That model capability unlocked something with these harnesses to be able to use tools, uh, for these AI agents that before was like, you know, really not possible. And now with Groq 4.5, you have that insane level of intelligence of something like Opus 4.8 today, the one of the most advanced models from Anthropic. But also you have it at a fraction of the cost, and then at a fr- at a fraction of the time that it would usually take for it to complete a task. I mean, this model is insanely, insanely fast, and it just unlocks like a new user experience for something like OpenClaude or Hermes. Like, it really makes it feel like it's a brand-new, fresh product just 'cause of how capable it is. So yeah, I, I would say like that's the biggest breakthrough with, with Groq 4.5. Uh, and then, of course, like all in the same week, we have now, uh, Meta just came out with their Spark 1.1 model and, uh, GPT 5.6 Sol came out, and I've tested all of them, and I think that they're all great. Like, they have their benefits. For instance, GPT is a lot better at like computer use