Podcast Episode

The 'AI Coachella' prof wants to take back the data centers

ACCESS
May 7, 20261 hr 4 minEN
Hosts
EHEllis HamburgerAHAlex Heath

Who’s talking

10 speakers
Anjney Midha37 min · 60%
Alex Heath11 min · 18%
Ellis Hamburger10 min · 17%
Speaker 238 sec · 1%
Speaker 1035 sec · 1%
Speaker 329 sec · 1%
4 others1 min · 2%

Transcript

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Anjney Midha1:00

[gentle music] So if you're like Elon and you've got 500,000 GB300s in Memphis, and then you've got diesel generators that are really loud and, and annoying to the locals, and they're saying like, "Hey, we get it. You wrote us a check, but that's not enough. Like, I'm starting to get a headache," pay attention.

EH
Ellis Hamburger1:16

Humans are raging against the machine. In this case, data centers cropping up in their backyards.

AM
Anjney Midha1:22

Listen, these are human beings. They will fuck shit up for you if you do not come across as an empathetic human being and listen to them.

EH
Ellis Hamburger1:28

How should we scale AI responsibly, and what should it even be used for?

AH
Alex Heath1:32

Today's guest, Anjané Mehta, has some ideas. He's an investor, founder, and viral Stanford lecturer. He's also one of the loudest voices arguing that the AI industry needs more cooperation, more compute, and a lot less zero-sum thinking.

AM
Anjney Midha1:47

Look, to each their own, guys, but Ellis, I think you may wanna hold back your Bay Area critique a little bit more. [laughs]

AH
Alex Heath1:54

[laughs] I think he got you there, Ellis.

EH
Ellis Hamburger1:55

Fair enough, fair enough.

AH
Alex Heath1:57

I'm Alex Heath, here with my co-host, Ellis Hamburger.

EH
Ellis Hamburger2:00

Welcome to Access. [gentle music]

AH
Alex Heath2:05

Anj, welcome. We've gotten through our technical difficulties. It's good to see you. You're fresh off of your class today, are you not?

AM
Anjney Midha2:11

Yeah, it, it was good. It was Gary Tan and Diana Hu from Y Combinator, and, uh, they are amazing. But the kids, uh... the kids were aggressive. These kids, these Stanford kids are really aggressive these days, you know?

AH
Alex Heath2:27

What do you mean?

AM
Anjney Midha2:28

Um, I'm, I'm still processing, so don't quote me on this, but I- generally, I feel like, you know, they don't really understand what an institution Y Combinator is in Silicon V- like, how much YC has done for Silicon Valley, for the institution of venture capital, for founders. Like, culturally, you know, when I grow up-- I, I introduced, uh, to Gary and Diana today in the context of when I was an undergrad, you know, uh, 12, 13 years ago. As a sophomore, I had the-- I was lucky enough to take Peter Thiel's first, um, sort of Zero to One class. It was called CS183B, How to Start a Startup. And that, you know, one of the students was Blake Masters in the class, and Blake turned it in--

Episode notes

What if OpenAI and Anthropic just played nice? Alex and Ellis sit down with Anjney Midha, venture capitalist, Stanford AI lecturer, and founder of AMP, to talk about why zero-sum thinking is holding the AI industry back. They discuss what it would look like if labs actually cooperated, why compute needs to work like electricity, and what his viral Stanford class on AI has revealed about the next generation of founders. They also get into the GameStop and eBay acquisition, why data centers need something like a nutrition label, and what AI is doing to startup culture right now. Follow ACCESS on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/accesspodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alex: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://sources.news/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/alexeheath/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Ellis: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://meaning.company/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/hamburger⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ACCESS is produced in partnership with the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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