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[gentle music] What were the most ridiculous tech company names you all came up with on the show?
We came up with so many more, and they were all taken.
[laughs]
They were all actual companies.
Your new favorite show just dropped, The Audacity, a new series about Silicon Valley by one of the writers of Succession and Better Call Saul. Why not just call it Apple? Were you worried about a lawsuit or something?
Yes. It's just a piece of fruit.
[laughs]
You can't, you can't copyright fruit.
I'm Alex Heath, here with my co-host Ellis Hamburger, and today we're joined by Audacity showrunner Jonathan Glatzer.
I don't wanna name names, uh-
Oh, come on
... but, you know-
They'd wanna be named.
Maybe that's why I don't wanna name them.
Uh. [laughs]
[laughs] Welcome to Access, where the most influential leaders shaping tech actually say what they think.
Let's do it.
[gentle music] Wait, I'm being ambushed now by the guest? We were trying to ambush him.
I'm afraid that this show has made me very paranoid, so, uh, the, that is, that is my, my natural state right now.
I had an idea of how to start the show, but I feel like we should just start with what you said, that the show is making you paranoid. What do you mean by that?
The, the tech world is known for, uh, creating phrases like doxing, and, uh, you, you... It's, it's a bit of a third rail, you know, when you, when you step into this arena. And people have very, very strong opinions. It's, uh, laced with politics and, um, coded with all kinds of, uh, cultural, uh, signifiers and such. And so it's, it's... We knew from the start that there were going to be haters, and, um, but we also knew that there were people who'd be quite grateful to see, uh, you know, a satire about the tech world, so, uh, with, you know, terrific characters and, uh, some, some, some comedy, some tragedy, and all of those things. So I, I... My paranoia goes away after a while.
As you explored it, i- is tech, uh, as dumb or even dumber than you thought going in as you did your research?
Oh, I guess more insidious. Uh, and it's not, it's not, it's not, uh, certainly not dumb. And, um, I think it's important to posit that, uh, if, if there's any sort of, um, us versus them aspect to this, they
Episode notes
What happens when Silicon Valley becomes the subject of its own satire? Alex and Ellis sit down with The Audacity showrunner Jonathan Glatzer to talk about building a TV series that takes on Big Tech, the battle for your private data, and the power dynamics shaping Silicon Valley — and Hollywood too. They also go deep into the role of satire in critiquing power, AI's role in the writing process, and why AMC was the only network brave enough to greenlight the show. Follow ACCESS on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/accesspodcast/ Follow Alex: https://sources.news/ https://x.com/alexeheath/ Follow Ellis: https://meaning.company/ https://x.com/hamburger ACCESS is produced in partnership with the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices