Podcast Episode

AI takes over meetings, the SF vs London tech scene, and ethics in media

ACCESS
Mar 26, 20261 hr 11 minEN
Hosts
EHEllis HamburgerAHAlex Heath
Guest
SSSam Stevenson

Who’s talking

11 speakers
Sam Stevenson27 min · 38%
Alex Heath20 min · 29%
Ellis Hamburger19 min · 28%
Speaker 1049 sec · 1%
Speaker 1141 sec · 1%
Speaker 530 sec · 1%
5 others2 min · 2%

Transcript

373 turns · 1 hr 12 min
Speaker 10:00

Once upon a Monday morning, Barb's day got busy without warning. A realtor in need of an open house sign. No, 50 of them, and designed before 9:00.

EH
Ellis Hamburger0:09

My head hurts.

Speaker 10:10

Any mighty tools to help with this plight?

EH
Ellis Hamburger0:12

Uh, aha!

Speaker 10:13

Barb made her move. She opened Canva and got in the groove.

EH
Ellis Hamburger0:17

Bulk create in Canva sheets. Create 50 signs fit for suburban streets.

Speaker 10:21

Done in a click, all complete.

EH
Ellis Hamburger0:23

Sweet.

Speaker 10:23

Now, imagine what your dreams can become when you put imagination to work at canva.com.

HB
Henry Blodget0:30

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AH
Alex Heath0:58

[gentle music] Ellis has AI butthole icons in our show prep notes-

EH
Ellis Hamburger1:04

[laughs]

AH
Alex Heath1:04

... and I just want Ellis to ask about that. What is that about?

EH
Ellis Hamburger1:07

Obviously, it is different than the little Claude butthole I have or the OpenAI techno butthole. Yeah, I mean, it's certainly adjacent, right?

AH
Alex Heath1:15

Yeah, it's butthole adjacent. Yeah, I'll give you that, yeah.

EH
Ellis Hamburger1:17

[laughs] This week on Access, Alex and I chat about his upcoming field trip to OpenAI, the rising relevance of film photography, and #ethics in the modern age of content creation. Then we're joined by Sam Stevenson, co-founder of Granola. The viral AI note-taking app is hot on the heels of their big raise, which values Granola at more than $1 billion. We get into it all from their controversial rebrand, if AI should actually run our meetings, opening their first office in San Francisco, and much more. Welcome to Access.

AH
Alex Heath1:52

Welcome to Access. I'm Alex Heath, here as always with my co-host, Ellis Hamburger. Ellis, how's it going?

EH
Ellis Hamburger1:59

Oh, I'm all right. As always, I am afflicted by something, uh, from my children.

AH
Alex Heath2:05

[laughs]

EH
Ellis Hamburger2:06

One of whom was up at 4:00 AM last night for unknown reasons.

AH
Alex Heath2:10

[laughs] We'll get into that. Uh-

EH
Ellis Hamburger2:11

Yeah

AH
Alex Heath2:11

... I'm pretty excited for this week's guest. I am a Granola power user. Did I convert you to Granola, or were you already a user as well?

EH
Ellis Hamburger2:19

It's honestly hard to keep track of how many things you've pilled me on, Claude being, Claude being the latest. I think you need to start getting, like, a kickback.

AH
Alex Heath2:26

I do. I do need a kickback. I've definitely pilled, um, a lot of people on Granola. We have the co-founder, Sam Stevenson. It's a great chat. Uh, really interested in the direction they're going, AI note-taking, how I'm outsourcing my brain, all of the above.

EH
Ellis Hamburger2:43

Well, but Alex, what is your ethics situation now that you're no longer in a big media newsroom? Are we accepting hats and water bottles now at the very least?

AH
Alex Heath2:51

Oh, [sighs] like, would I s- ex- you know, accept some granola granola? Is that what you're saying?

EH
Ellis Hamburger2:56

[laughs] Exactly, yeah.

AH
Alex Heath2:57

[laughs] You know, if it's perishable, I'll, I'll accept it.

EH
Ellis Hamburger3:02

[laughs]

AH
Alex Heath3:03

[laughs]

EH
Ellis Hamburger3:03

I mean, it is funny. I mean, I love the spirit of a lot of these, you know, rules and ethics statements because it is such a slippery slope, but when you look at it in the moment and it's like if you were to be biased by a sack of granola to, like, corrupt your entire

Episode notes

Alex and Ellis talk about navigating ethics in media and programming the pod, the rise of film photography, and Alex’s trip to OpenAI. Then they’re joined by Granola co-founder Sam to talk about building one of the breakout AI meeting tools. They discuss why meetings are still where decisions actually get made and how Granola is evolving as a product. They also get into design choices, how people use the product in real workflows, and what it means to build tools that sit within your most important conversations. Follow ACCESS on Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/accesspodcast/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Alex: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://sources.news/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/alexeheath/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Ellis: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://meaning.company/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/hamburger⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ACCESS is produced in partnership with the Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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