When AI Cuts Entry-Level Jobs, Who Builds the Senior Workforce?
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[upbeat music] Hey, welcome back to another episode of AGI Schools Out. Uh, I'm joined today by Shabir Kudpin?
Kudpaden.
Kudpaden.
Yep.
I was close. I was semi-close.
Yeah, you're perfect. [laughs] You're perfect.
All right. From Ivy Tech University. Man, we're gonna talk about your IT challenge, we're gonna talk about what's going on with workforce development, we're gonna talk about, uh, young people having trouble getting jobs, and all kinds of great stuff today. But before we get too far into that, why don't you tell us all about yourself, your position, and, uh, and what you do and where you're from.
Thank you, Jason. Um, originally from India. I actually celebrated 10 years in the US, uh, this August. Um, August the 3rd is 2016 when, when I first came in. Um, and you know, people have different reasons for coming in. Mine was always about the culture. So, um, I always wanted to experience the culture. And you know, I, I grew up watching professional wrestling and, you know, all the TV shows and the films and, and the music and everything, and I was a... I, I, I'm still a big N- NBA fan. So it was pretty amazing to actually experience all of that being in the country. And so 10 years ago I made, made the decision to come to the US. I went to Purdue University to get my master's in management, and then, uh, when I graduated, I got an opportunity to work for Ivy Tech. Uh, a guy by the name of Larry Garatoni gave me my first opportunity here. And so I actually used to live in South Bend. Uh, I was there for four years after I f- I finished my, uh, master's at Purdue West Lafayette. And then, uh, I got this opportunity in my, in my current role four years ago. So I came to the systems office and I started working as the assistant vice president for School of Information Technology. And then after a year, I got an opportunity to also work in entrepreneurship, and now I'm also gonna be working in business. So there's gonna be three schools. Um, I work very closely with, you know, someone you already know, Mike Portorf, um, and Molly Dodge. So those are the two individuals that I work, uh, closely with, uh, in workforce and careers. But it's been an amazing 10 years in the US. I've met some amazing people. I've built a lot of friendships. I've traveled a lot and, you know, it's, it's been a great learning experience from all, all perspectives. So, uh, I'm enjoying this journey, and I hope it continues on. But it's, it's been a great experience.
So Jake the Snake Roberts, uh-
[laughs]
[laughs] Made you want to come to America and go to what I call the MIT of the Midwest, Purdue University. I love that.
Yeah. J- Jake was kind of already retired by the time I caught up. I caught up with him in the late '90s, so.
Thank you for that, Shabir. Yes.
Yeah. Austin was my guy.
I, I couldn't think if I was going with The Undertaker and the Hart Brothers or that. They're all way before your time.
Yeah, they're all gone.
[laughs]
But Austin was my guy. He w- He's still, he's still my guy even though he's retired.
Oh, Uncle Steve Austin. I could get down with that, yes.
Yeah.
As a matter of fact, I, I often say the resemblance is uncanny.
[laughs]
[laughs]
Yeah. I've, I've never
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EPISODE DESCRIPTION
Companies cannot remove the bottom rung of the career ladder and expect a senior workforce to appear five years later. Shabbir Qutbuddin of Ivy Tech Community College joins Jason to talk about the 13 percent employment decline experienced by workers ages 22 to 25 in highly AI-exposed occupations, and what colleges, employers, and students can do about it.
The answer reaches beyond adding another AI 101 course. They discuss Ivy Tech's AI pathways, apprenticeships, project-based learning, opportunities inside small and midsized businesses, and why students need to understand what happens under the hood of an AI model. The conversation also gets personal: sycophantic chatbots can feel easier than human relationships, but easy agreement comes with a cost.
ABOUT THE GUEST
Shabbir Qutbuddin is an Assistant Vice President at Ivy Tech Community College whose work spans information technology, entrepreneurship, and business education. He helps connect curriculum, employer demand, AI training, and workforce pathways for students across Indiana.
GUEST LINKS
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shabbir-qutbuddin/
Ivy Tech Community College: https://www.ivytech.edu/
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