Podcast Episode

Can You Engineer a Toddler's Accent?

My Weird Prompts

Episode 5988Oct 15, 202626 min

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5 speakers
Herman Poppleberry11 min · 46%
Corn7 min · 31%
Squeaks Pemberton-Waffle3 min · 11%
Speaker 11 min · 6%
Hilbert Flumingtop1 min · 6%

1Transcript180 turns · 26 min

Speaker 10:00

A sloth, a donkey, and a curious human send a prompt and see what they're doing. One hits a record with a question on his mind. Two brothers pick it up, see what they find. Cone takes his time. Herman's got the facts. Back and forth, they never hold back. My weird prompts, come on in, that's where we begin. My weird prompts, glad you're here.

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Hilbert Flumingtop0:25

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C
Corn0:31

I've been thinking about this one all morning, Herman, and I still don't know whether to laugh or open a linguistics textbook.

HP
Herman Poppleberry0:38

Then we're off to a strong start because I did both. I actually printed the prompt out, which I never do.

C
Corn0:43

Daniel wants Ezra to grow up sounding like a member of the landed gentry. 15 months old, already has a project manager.

HP
Herman Poppleberry0:52

Project Papa. He named it.

C
Corn0:54

He did. And the first deliverable is that Ezra calls him Papa, not Dad, ideally in a wonderfully refined English accent. The household is Irish father, American mother, Jerusalem address. Nobody in the building has ever said the word spiffing out loud.

HP
Herman Poppleberry1:10

Except Daniel now, presumably, at breakfast.

C
Corn1:13

Constantly. There's a genuine question buried under the comedy, which is the part that kept me reading. Can you actually engineer a specific accent and register in a child by modeling and repetition, or does the child's environment simply win? And if it can be done, how long before the playground takes it apart?

HP
Herman Poppleberry1:33

He also asked for a vocabulary substitution list of about 20 expressions, a practical training program, and a verdict on whether any of it survives contact with other children.

C
Corn1:44

And he was careful to note that child welfare services needn't be notified, which is the most reassuring sentence I've read all week.

HP
Herman Poppleberry1:52

That's the correct amount of reassurance, honestly. Here's what I find interesting before we get anywhere near the funny part. Ezra is 15 months old. That's not a random age. That's the middle of the single most sensitive window humans have for phonetics.

C
Corn2:07

Sensitive how?

HP
Herman Poppleberry2:09

Sensitive in that it closes. Between six and 12 months, an infant's ability to discriminate phonetic units that don't exist in their native language sharply declines. They come in able to hear everything, and they tune down to what they need. By 12 months, the tuning has largely happened.

C
Corn2:25

So the window for hearing a foreign sound is already mostly shut at 15 months.

HP
Herman Poppleberry2:30

For perception, mostly, which is the first complication for Project Papa, because the accent target isn't a set of new phonemes Ezra needs to hear. It's a particular distribution of ones he already has. That's actually more tractable. What matters at 15 months is that he's at the point where words start arriving in volume.

C
Corn2:48

And the household has no native speaker of the target. That's the core tension. You want a specific accent, and the only available models are Irish, American, and whatever Jerusalem English turns into when four languages share a kitchen.

HP
Herman Poppleberry3:03

Which is where the cool work becomes the whole story. Nine-month-old American infants, 12 sessions of 25 minutes over four weeks, live Mandarin speakers in the room. They learn to distinguish Mandarin phonemes, and they perform statistically level with infants in Taiwan who'd been

2Episode notes

A listener wrote in with a project: raise his fifteen-month-old son to speak like an English gentleman, complete with a vocabulary substitution list and a training programme. What follows is a genuinely interesting collision between comedy and developmental linguistics. We dig into Patricia Kuhl's landmark Mandarin work — four weeks of live sessions matching ten months of immersion, while the same content on video or audiotape produced literally nothing — and what that means for screen-based and audio-based language input. Then we take the vocabulary list seriously: the U and non-U distinction from Alan Ross's 1954 paper, the substitutions that survived into modern usage, and the ones that are pure costume. Along the way: sensitive periods for phonetics, why motherese is doing real work, when children start shifting toward their peers' dialect, and why verb diversity in parent input predicts a child's later vocabulary more than accent ever will. Key sources: • Kuhl, Tsao & Liu, Foreign-language experience in infancy, PNAS 2003 — https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1532872100 • UW News, Social interaction plays key role in how infants learn language, 2003-07-14 — https://www.washington.edu/news/2003/07/14/social-interaction-plays-key-role-in-how-infants-learn-language-studies-show/ • Johnson & White, Developmental sociolinguistics: Children's acquisition of language

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